can we talk about qiyana?

Hi im 12·Sep 11, 2019·3 votes·1,198 views

if you play her properly there's literally nothing the enemies can do to beat you, its actually so fucking stupid lmao

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preternaturalSep 11, 20191 votes

I been playing qiyana and I disagree, cc makes qiqi very sad, especially snares those are bad juju. also I do quite well into her, definitely not something on the rift that annoys me to face like a riven or renekderp.

Hi im 12Sep 11, 20193 votes

probably because you wont meet any good qiyana bellow high dia unless they are hard smurfing

preternaturalSep 11, 20191 votes

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probably because you wont meet any good qiyana bellow high dia unless they are hard smurfing

it's all relative dude, otherwise the entire ladder wouldn't have a bone to pick with akali. also, what happens when qiyana loses in high mmr? they can only be good there according to your logic so how do they lose if the champ is autowin? don't tell me that there's other immobile things that are more autowin than her.

Hi im 12Sep 11, 20191 votes

otherwise the entire ladder wouldn't have a bone to pick with akali.

because you don't have to be good at akali to win lane, you just have to be good to win games, and people really don't like to lose lane in low elo.

what happens when qiyana loses in high mmr?

bad team, unlucky game?

qiyana players in medium to high elo have 60% wr when they have experience on the champion.

preternaturalSep 11, 20191 votes

also, if you go to the syndra champion spotlight, you will clearly hear phreak saying that if syndra is played perfectly opponents won't be able to retaliate. so meh, at least qiqi is melee and doesn't have a point and click ult. here come the /boards

KeiagaSep 11, 20191 votes

Theres a reason shes dead last in terms of winrate in every role she plays. Youre complaining that the statistically weakest champ in the game is too strong for you. Wow.

Hi im 12Sep 11, 20191 votes

ah yes, I didn't realize 50% on a "high skillcap" champion was the "dead last" in every role, also didn't realize that people with good amount of games on her hitting 60%+ wr meant she was weak.

KeiagaSep 11, 20191 votes

Stop making things up. As of patch 9.17 shes 38/47 midlane with a 47% winrate in platinum+. This is her best. She falls all the way down to 47/47 the lower elo you go amd shes in dead last at every elo as a jungler.

Hi im 12Sep 11, 20191 votes

as of patch 9.18 shes 50% wr in plat+, lets look at 9.17 since you like that one more though, 50%+ wr in dia+, 53% wr in masters+, 55% wr in challenger.

yes gutter plat can't play this champion, that wasn't the point of this thread though.

KeiagaSep 11, 20191 votes

Ill give you benefit of a doubt for a moment. Where are you getting your data from? Maybe my source is wrong but its almost unbelievable that her winrate skyrocketed like that when 9.18 didnt give her any sort of buffs or nerfs.

Hi im 12Sep 11, 20191 votes

https://u.gg/lol/champions/qiyana/build?rank=master_plus

almost unbelievable that her winrate skyrocketed like that when 9.18 didnt give her any sort of buffs or nerfs.

shes a new high skillcap champion, it takes people a while to figure out how to play her properly (around 60-100 games from the looks of it)

KeiagaSep 11, 20191 votes

Im sure your platinum ranked self isnt running into all all these challenger ranked qiyana players daily.

Youre playing against the other gutter plat plat players struggling with 47%

Hi im 12Sep 11, 20191 votes

hard to say, was masters when my main got permad which was 2 years ago.

Im sure its high enough that all these grandmaster qiyana players youre talking about are an actual concern.

eh you get a couple of good ones running around in high dia and its annoying how stupidly broken the champion is when played properly.

SchenixSep 11, 20191 votes

She isn't particularly out of line, just has a lot of cancels that exacerbate her impact. Learning them is what made the curve start so low around 46% and ramp up to what is now 49 - 52%. Her ultimate is also exceptional since it forces you (and even a whole team) into a wall for her to unload all these cancels without fear.

As it stands though, she isn't problematic outside of the teamfight impact ultimate on an assassin which is simultaneously useable on a single target. It can be kept still though if the time she is able to unload, something Zed had removed on his instant W-E-Q combo to give opponents a little more time, was given the same treatment.