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Ranked Solo/Duo Need Help / TIPS "ELO HELL"

Ðroxx··1 votes·1,309 views

I really need some tips or help because there is either something I am doing very very wrong, or its just horrible luck. I have gone from Bronze III to Bronze 4 [9 LP, Bordering on Bronze V]. I cant control who I get into a game with besides one other person, and two people can rarely carry a game when your team mates are either trolling, afk, or feeding. I have watched extensive videos on how to improve in the bronze tier, however there has been no success as of yet. I usually go JG to help lanes, or I go top. Recently, I have had great luck going top, I win lane and usually get 3-4 kills under my belt. Problem is, my team has fed the enemies by that point, and im left getting destroyed by champs like Xin Zao etc. At the start of me playing ranked, I played a bit more complicated champs like gangplank who are mi-late game type of champions, this worked out horribly. I tried to keep playing him to get better, same things happened where team would feed enemy would come top by 3s and take my tower.

EDIT I just played a game, got into a lobby, I was asked by a bot lane adc if he could JG as Gragas. I thought this was appealing to have a gragas as last I saw he was not that bad of a pick and we needed a tank. I went Jhin to take his adc role. A yasuo and ekko fed a nasus and yi, they came bot and took our lane while we were full HP under our turret. Bot lane was a winning fight, until the fed Yi and Nasus came.

What am I suppost to do? I dont consider myself a professional player, but I think I am AT LEAST Silver 3. I need to learn more, but I believe most of these games are at the fault of another person, and no matter how positive I try to be it comes back and bites me in the ass.

Please any tips are appreciated, I have come here as a last resort after watching several youtube videos, reading a few posts on S7 bronze. Thanks!

4 Comments

Dolasaur2 votes

#1 tip - Truly do your best to analyze what you're doing. That means watching yourself post-game, either a recorded stream of yourself or in a spectate/replay. (You can use replay.gg or a site like that for replays, or you can have a second computer set up to spectate your current game.)

When you're not actively playing, it's a lot easier to notice mistakes you're making. Personally, when I'm playing, I often remember 3 or 4 times where I made major bad decisions. But when I watch a replay of myself, I notice the 10 times that I didn't ward while pushing, the 8 times a gank appeared on minimap at least 5 seconds before I reacted, the 20 times I could have harassed the enemy ADC as she was going for a CS, the 4 times that I had teleport up and could have easily cleaned up a fight around dragon but I was too focused on my lane, etc.

So watch several of your games, including ones where you do poorly, okay, and very well. Identify recurring problems, and then resolve to work on them. After you've played a while, watch some more games and see if you've improved. Then decide if you need to work more on that issue, or if you should focus on something else. And repeat ad infinitum.

If you think you're playing perfectly, then you're not analyzing your play critically enough. If you're trying as hard as you can to analyze and you can't find any problems, then try asking around (perhaps real life friends or in-game friend list, as opposed to boards full of strangers) for someone else to watch your games and point out your mistakes. They don't have to be higher ranked than you to help; you might be so used to failing your Flashes that your summoner level 20 friend says "lol, you fail Flash four times a game, and most people do one or two". I'm not saying you should blindly trust everyone. Just that additional perspectives may help you if you seem blocked.

I think I am AT LEAST Silver 3. I need to learn more, but I believe most of these games are at the fault of another person, and no matter how positive I try to be it comes back and bites me in the ass.

It is always your fault. It might not actually be, but that mindset will help you improve. Admitting that you are where you belong is the first step to actually improving to the point where Riot recognizes you as Silver 3.

Going back to the earlier "perfection" comment- let's say you have a teammate that feeds the enemy bot laner. You've been doing fairly well, and you know you need to kill that ADC in order to win. You go in, and you almost kill her, but she survives with 100 hp. If your teammate hadn't fed, you would have won. HOWEVER. You know what? If you'd been better at CSing earlier, you would have been able to finish combining your Black Cleaver, and you would have won that fight. Or if you'd put your wards in better places, you would have seen her support Janna coming up to shield her, and your teammate could have moved in to prevent the Janna from coming, and you would have won that fight. Or if you were better at securing dragon with Smite, you would have had that extra Infernal Drake instead, so the ADC would have done less damage to you and you'd have done more to her, and you would have won the fight. Etc.

It's all about you. If you blame your teammates, you feel better about yourself. If you blame yourself, you improve and get a higher rank. Which is more important to you? If you truly want to improve, then vow to yourself to never again say "I think I am AT LEAST Silver 3". Instead, say "I think that if I work hard, I can reach AT LEAST Silver 3."

Ðroxx1 votes

thank you so much for taking the time to come and comment. Really appreciate it. I have started to take a closer look at my mistakes but the thing is there are so many mistakes others make that I cannot solve and are out of my reach. I am trying to asses myself more however there are some things I cannot help that have to do with others in the game.

Dolasaur1 votes

It's certainly true. And since you're not secretly a challenger smurf, there are many games that you couldn't carry even if you played perfectly [for your skill level]. The thing is, that is NEVER going to change. People in challenger complain about how terrible their teammates are.

You can do almost nothing about your teammates. You can always be a positive, helpful force that compliments people when they do well, politely calls out strategy suggestions, and pings MIA lanes or if the jungler pops up on the minimap. And you should definitely be doing all those things! But that only gets your so far on its own.

Think of it this way: There are 10 players in each game you play, and they all have approximately equal skill level. 9 of them may disconnect, rage, be someone whose main got banned and has no idea how to play anyone else, or be autofilled. 5 of those 9 are on the other team, and 4 are on yours. Since you should never be doing most of that, you have an advantage. (You will get autofilled if you never play fill/support. That you can fix that by learning a couple uncommon supports (so that they don't get picked by the enemy), and then queuing for support whenever you lose autofill protection.) That means there is more randomness on the enemy team than yours. Over the long run, that means you'll end up with a rank that matches your true skill level.

I am trying to asses myself more however there are some things I cannot help that have to do with others in the game.

Just going to repeat this- you can't fix your teammates. As you just said, you know that you cannot help some things. You have a limited amount of time to play the game and improve yourself. You can spend all of that time working on yourself. Or you can spend some of that time complaining about how your teammates feed, how you got 3-man ganked, etc. The more time you spend complaining, the less time you spend improving.

Edit: Note that I'm not focused on self-improvement much (since I spend much more time on the boards than playing, lol). I'm just saying this for you because you asked for advice.

o TripleM o1 votes

Best tip I can give you is wait a few months.

It seems like the truly horrible players (you know, the toxic, tilted trolls and feeders who keep ending up on your team) lose interest in ranked play later in the season. This allows for those with moderate to decent skills to get more consistent players on their teams and then steadily climb the ranks. I've always been Silver when I've put any REAL effort into ranked. The seasons where I ended up Bronze were because I quit ranked early out of frustration and never went back.

This year my goal is Gold V or better, but I know (based on how impossible it has been to make a dent in Bronze this year so far) that I won't get close until September/October at the earliest.

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