Good vs. Bad; Teamwork vs. Carrying

Power Cosmic··2 votes·730 views

Good players know how to contribute to a team's winning effort whatever the circumstances. Bad players don't know how to help, and carry teams to losses.

tl;dr Don't try to learn how to carry. Learn tactics and how to help.

16 Comments

EndlessSorcerer4 votes

Learn how to use your strength when you are in a position to carry the game.

Learn how to be carried when someone else is in a position to carry it.

Power Cosmic1 votes

Exactly. Especially the latter statement.

dominusx2 votes

learn how to solocarry. it's SOLOque for a reason. the more you rely on the monkeys the faster you gonna become toxic. save teamwork for when you hit master/chall.

Power Cosmic2 votes

I guess you are right in a way. But no one can solo carry if the other team is fed.

dominusx1 votes

then just give up and wait for the next one. sure as fuck not gonna push myself and tilt because my botlane is 0-10. following this attitude has greatly decreased my toxicity in comparison to last summer where i'd always tryhard to carry losing games and tilt then become toxic.

Ralanr1 votes

So you'd be perfectly willing to give up if you're unable to carry? Even if someone else was carrying?

dominusx1 votes

try to play a game that has a 30% chance of beeing won whilist my team is simply a handicap and in case i dont win i simply wait 45mins for nothing? or go into a new game were i might get a better team and have more fun playing? i'd take the second anytime. the only game i consistenly ALWAYS try to comeback is Battlefield .

Ralanr1 votes

Maybe it's because I'm uncharacteristically optimistic when playing league, or maybe it's because I'm bronze 1 right now, but I'm probably not going to surrender since there's a good chance the enemy could fuck up.

That doesn't always happen. Last ranked game I lost because no one could deal with the Twitch or Darius. My Veigar kept using his ult on the Ahri.

dominusx1 votes

bronze 1? i'd bet you were at least gold. i wish you luck on climbing you are one of the few people i actually like on the boards.

Ralanr1 votes

Thanks.

It's the first time I'm doing ranked after years of norms. Won 7 of my placements and so far I'm doing ok in ranked.

In bronze it mainly comes down to which carry gets fed the most. So playing support is surprisingly helpful.

dominusx1 votes

Just play Naut buddy you can hit gold with him in like a week haha.

Ralanr1 votes

Not at the rate I play ranked (once a day).

Though I probably could take Nautilus back bot. Been a while.

EndlessSorcerer1 votes

Tip: Consider building Zz'rot Portal on supports immediately after Sightstone and Boots of Speed.

It provides useful stats for mid-game (resistances, health regeneration, movement speed), serves as a gold-income item and provides significant amounts of map pressure.

Even if everyone is randomly fighting in mid-lane or the enemy jungle, it can take towers throughout the game (or position the minions so that you can take them).

Ralanr1 votes

Portal on support huh?

I think I'll give it a shot. I like the item but I tend to forget or find the right situations to use it (and only recently learned that it gave me gold).

Azure Hamster2 votes

The first rule of being carried is knowing how to let that player carry you. #1: don't die. There are others, but that's the really important one. The would-be carrier can't carry if he can't keep ahead of the opposing team because they're being fed.

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Power Cosmic1 votes

Don't be added weight try to lessen the load (even when adc). Fundamental things to learn to be useful would be positioning, route taking, rotating, stalling, attrition, abilities to chain, warding, and proper builds.

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