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Jhin is horrible with the new runes

Space Jhin·11/10/2017, 6:46:03 PM·8 votes·7,847 views

Feels like Jhin has taken a massive hit with these new runes. They fit most adc's perfectly but I just can't seem to find one that works properly on Jhin.

I can't use any Precision keystone as i'll get 18% attack speed from the secondary one which is literally worthless until like full build (4 ad lvl 1 to be accurate), also Footwork heals me for like 30 a proc with 4 items, Bloodlust would've healed me for 400 without a crit at that point so I don't see a point in trying to run Footwork anyway.

Dark Harvest and Electrocute are actually alright, you can take Precision as secondary and get "Coup De Grace" (for the execute) and "Legend: Bloodline" to compensate for the lack of any sustain, with 8% life steal you won't have to buy any life steal item. And that's good cuz I never did thanks to Bloodlust. This seems somewhat alright but you will absolutely HAVE to run Precision secondary.

One big downside to Domination Jhin is not being able to start Dorans Ring as the passive bonus is adaptable so you will get ap bonus instead if you do, and not buying it will cause you to lose a lot of early pressure and run out of mana often, and Essence Reaver is not even close as destructive as Statikk Shiv as third Crit item (after IE and RFC which I consider core items).

On a slightly different note, even with Domination rune page and Dorans Ring/Long Sword start Jhin feels a lot weaker in early - mid game... I played him as a lane bully with safe Q+4th shot trades with my +14 lethality and +14 ad rune page which gave me decent early game and big power spike after first back if I get Dirk, and he scaled well on top of that.

so my ideal build was D Ring start, Dirk + boots or Dirk + cull on first B, BF sword on second, finish Ghostblade then IE or RFC rush, then Statikk and Last Whisper... Boot upgrade anywhere along the way, i'd buy any boots except the CDR ones. And this felt a lot more powerful than what I have now with these new runes.

Don't get me wrong, I love the new runes, they made the game a lot more fun and there is a lot more variety but it's just that it feels like Jhin took too much big of a hit.

33 Comments

Ralanr11/10/2017, 6:48:19 PM5 votes

So...you cannot be a bit less spammy with your spells early and you don’t want to sacrifice a bit more damage for more spell spam?

I’ve been running electrocute on him.

Truly Prideful11/10/2017, 7:34:02 PM3 votes

I ran Aery on him with the Doran's Ring start and that was alright. You can reasonably throw Aery at someone consistently and be pretty annoying with the chip damage. I do agree though, the keystones all feel really awkward on him.

Eridu11/10/2017, 7:02:52 PM2 votes

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SmokinArt11/11/2017, 9:20:10 AM2 votes

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Feels like Jhin has taken a massive hit with these new runes. They fit most adc's perfectly but I just can't seem to find one that works properly on Jhin.

No matter what anyone else says or excuses they make 72 VirJhins is right, despite masteries or knowledge of the champ(Jhin) He went from top of the line when released to a slow demise to LAST PLACE! That's way to far to fall! They destroyed all the luster Jhin had even when he's a your main. They have NO keystone for a burst ADC that attack speed is almost useless on, Jhins entire game plan is based on his 4 shot Passive and hard build. he was already hard countered by 6-8 ADCs depending on the support matches, skill was all you had. So he's now a skill champ only???? how does that make sense???? Riot produced nothing for jhin that makes any sense. he needs the mana from the DRing to even sustain enough mana to hold his lane. Warlords BARLELY made the cut when they nerfed death for AD damage, and they role out another patch that does nothing for him.

Riot you have ruined Jhin. You wanna produce a Video on how to make jhin matter again, that would be great? You wont tho cus you Killed him and have no answers right now.

Boost his early game base stats so he can make it to Mid-late game.

NTrumpWeTrust11/10/2017, 7:42:38 PM2 votes

aery scales with ad and mana flow band makes him more spammy. It's not terrible. It's more of the precision talents synergizing much too well with adcs that were already strong.

Eridu11/10/2017, 6:54:09 PM2 votes

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Deez Crits11/10/2017, 10:55:49 PM2 votes

While I haven't played Jhin too extensively (we're only a few days into preseason after all), I think he's fine and Lethal Tempo is great on him.

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2640827936/34584450?tab=overview (yes, this one was a loss but I was at 200+ ping for no apparent reason)

http://matchhistory.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/#match-details/NA1/2640996780/34584450?tab=overview

I think attack speed is a little underrated on Jhin; last season I played him with straight AS runes (no AD). I have personally always been focused on late game, however.

Since match history isn't showing new rune builds yet, here was the setup I used.

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/featured/preseason-update/8000-8008?build=01021158

Lethal tempo gave me about 80 AD late game with full build and I was breaking 1k AD with ardent censer. It synergizes well with deadly flourish. Hopefully you can run up and extend its duration (you have 4.5s to do so). It also possibly works for improving ult damage if you're following the tempo of the keystone.

Although unrelated, maybe this will keep you motivated to find out what works for you.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-WrQ0mVUgiI

Paper Fox11/28/2017, 3:20:14 PM1 votes

Essentially, this entire post to me seems like a stubborn player who realizes that this game CHANGES DRASTICALLY on a regular basis, but refuses to adapt their play style to reflect this.

Jhin is on the upper tier of ADC's right now, with most players opting to go sorcery masteries into a lethality based build. Maybe they have some insight that you should adopt?

Sett a trap11/10/2017, 7:45:23 PM1 votes

dude Comet works on Jhin....it works great actually

Tenth Leper11/11/2017, 7:44:55 PM1 votes

if you can't use precision go sorcery or inspiration. they will give you better stats anyway

Áctual Pepega11/17/2017, 4:02:15 PM1 votes

Agreed that nearly all key runes are bad on Jhin, but I'm glad to see DRing is not an option anymore. I hated it when Jhins on my team started it. And I've never built it first, never had mana problems.