Why do I have to spend 190 mana as Brand just to kill ranged minions?

specter424·Sep 22, 2016·3 votes·1,138 views

And why does Conflagration cost 90 mana in the first place? It is easily the worst spell in the game.

29 Comments

iLasVegasSep 22, 20166 votes

No, Brand is ranged as well. You don't need to waste any mana to kill ranged minions.

specter424Sep 22, 20161 votes

Don't be obtuse. You are trying to clear minions not spend a minute auto attacking them to death,

BeatzBoyFTWSep 22, 20161 votes

Yea, cz why the fk are you trying to push a lane to make yourself easier to get ganked

specter424Sep 22, 20161 votes

...? Laning phase doesn't last the whole game sometimes I need to push a lane and brand sucks at it.

BeatzBoyFTWSep 22, 20161 votes

His mana costs gives a good compensation for the amount of ranged damage he does, especially the reworked passive. If you're still having mana issues with him, getting item 3027 item 3165 would do you good.

specter424Sep 22, 20161 votes

oh you mean the 605 + 150% ap damage he does? Pre rework Brand was way better. They took so much of his damage away and put it into his shitty passive that isn't even good.

TyrekGoldenspearSep 22, 20162 votes

Excuse me? That explodey passive is devastating in teamfights, and post rework ult can actually target enemies to max stacks instead of depending on RING.

specter424Sep 22, 20161 votes

If people aren't going for a group hug its not going to do much at all.

TyrekGoldenspearSep 22, 20161 votes

But if they don't, then their carries aren't being protected. >:)

TyrekGoldenspearSep 22, 20161 votes

Eh, RoA is okay if you're doing a tank Brand, but personally I have better success with doing Rylais and Morrello, with a Torment later being my only tanky Madge items.

Maxing out your CDR is really good on Brand, and Hourglass, Morrelos, and Either Abyssal or Ionain boots really let you dish out that sweet damage faster.

TyrekGoldenspearSep 22, 20161 votes

That's a good one. Dude I can clear waves all day as Brand.

It's my favorite pastime after making my enemies explode.

FallenSeruvimSep 22, 20161 votes

The same reason other mages push lanes. Because it denies farm and puts pressure on the enemy mid laners, opening your ability to roam to other lanes?

JustMyBassCannonSep 22, 20163 votes

Because you're not supposed to be wasting all your mana on minions in the early-game. Doing that is stupid.

Good job being shit at my favorite mage.

specter424Sep 22, 20161 votes

190 mana isnt the cost of it early game. way to know all about your favorite mage.

JustMyBassCannonSep 22, 20161 votes

You're right, it's 130 mana when you have both spells at their first rank. But I didn't claim that I memorized Brand's statistics, I just said that you can't hack it, shitlord.

Best part is you're posting behind an alt account so I can't accurately criticize your shit build.

specter424Sep 22, 20161 votes

Best part is you still don't get the point of this topic.

JustMyBassCannonSep 23, 20161 votes

By mid-game, if you're spending more than 100 mana on killing the caster minions, you either have a shit build or shit aim. Or, possibly, you've fallen behind and couldn't keep up.

Best part is you're still shit at Brand, no matter which one of those is the right one.

specter424Sep 23, 20161 votes

Who are you anyways? At no point in the game does Pillar one shot the casters, I had a Rylai's and Morello at idk 15 minutes and had to w and e to kill minions unless I wanted to auto attack them. I'm like Lee Harvey Oswald with my spells so no aim is not an issue.

JustMyBassCannonSep 23, 20161 votes

I didn't at all imply that you were going to 1-shot casters with Pillar. I said if you spend more than 100 mana on the caster minions, you're doing poorly.

specter424Sep 23, 20161 votes

If I want to fast push I have to cast two spells hence the 190 mana

JustMyBassCannonSep 23, 20161 votes

Yeah, still doing it wrong. If you're only worrying about pushing, a single W is going to take almost all of the caster minions' health bars. There's going to be, at most, one auto's worth of HP left.

You are the only one deciding that not waiting 2 seconds to get them is "worth" wasting another 90 mana.

TyrekGoldenspearSep 22, 20163 votes

HUEHUEHUEHUEHUE

Okay Morde get outta here, I gotta teach this Johnny Storm how to become a Johnny Blaze.

Okay listen up pyromaniac in training; your E, Conflagration, may not be 's bread and butter, but it is a vital part of his kit.

It is a point and click, instant damage, EZ way to proc your blastin' passive.

Your lane opponent being cheeky and wants to all in you? Make that sucker explode from the inside with E, then throw a Q to sear 'em up a bit. Now they may be sitting there stunned and rethinking their life descisions, but you're just getting warmed up. Finish them off with a W (That you better max first) and watch the fuse of their destruction being lit. Throw in an summoner 14 for good measure, and congratulations son, you just got first blood.

Now your opponent re-spawns, and he's probably thinking Crap, this fire dude's dangerous! I better stand behind minions to avoid that stun, or it's all over for me!

Now he comes back in lane and is a little smarter, hiding behind minions to avoid your Q. This is when you laugh and cause the ground beneath the minion wave (or your opponent who stood there just a little too long in their AA animation) to burst into flames and watch them roast. Now as they run around crackling with heat, they may be thinking that the worst is over, but naw, it's just getting started. E the blazin' minion next to him if you can't quite reach, and watch the explosions litter up the wave, farming you some sweet fire moolah while your opponent just exploded a little, refreshing that %health DOT. Now he knows he gotta back, or else that Q is coming his way, and maybe, just maybe he doesn't want to explode again while being stunned.

He runs with his tail between his legs (and on fire) as you laugh and roast up them minions. Which by the way, can be easily farmed with just W and E. Provided you have enough AP, of course. But nothing beats the good old AA.

Now say he comes back, and this time he brought his jungler friend, crying about how you keep roasting his booty. Now the jungler's not gonna like that, cuz if he goes down again, then his team will flame him for not ganking. So he waits for your opponent to be cheeky again before going in.

Now by this time you ignore your wimpy baby opponent, who's too weak itemwise to hurt you much. But you see the jungler coming a mile away thanks to your item 3340 . Now you E the flammable jungler as he tries to gank and then Q him, stopping him dead in his tracks. You actually kill him dead by W'ing the ground he's on and, tipping your item 3089 fedora, you throw Pyroclasym into the unfortunate jungler's face, killing him. By this time your opponent is once again rethinking his life as your fireball of flaming death bounces between him and his minions, you summoner 14 him once again, and celebrate your double kill by dancing on his corpse.

That is how you play Brand.

specter424Sep 22, 20161 votes

I have been playing Brand since season 2. They had a buff for Conshitgration on the PBE but it was tossed away. It is nothing more then a Blaze proc and its just awful.

TyrekGoldenspearSep 22, 20162 votes

And yet you ask why you need 190 mana to clear a wave and talk smack about E...