A proposal for fizz

Biggg O·Oct 11, 2014·14 votes·1,344 views

"Any projectile mid air targeted at fizz still hits him when he uses playful/trickster."

Any ranged auto attack mid-air
Point and click abilities such as annie Q
Caitlyn ult if the projectile is mid air, if not, it cancels the ult

You want to give him a 6 second invulnerability? Fine, but it shouldn't act as a moving zhonya. It should make it so he isn't targetable not invulnerable.

Another proposal

"Fizz is still targetable when he is in playful/trickster but doesn't take any damage"

When trying to kite this champ as an adc mostly a lot of times you end up misclicking because he isn't targetable when you go to click on him and you end up walking towards him instead.

17 Comments

ColinFlyOct 11, 20146 votes

I agree, gut the fish pre-s5

GorgannanOct 11, 20146 votes

Exaggeration invalidates your point. If he is really so strong, then you shouldn't need to overstate his strengths to get the point across.

It is nowhere near a 6 second invulnerability. Say it like it is and you'll get much more support.

TasgalOct 11, 20145 votes

Pretty sure he meant it as invulnerability on a 6 second cd.

NoMonkuOct 11, 20146 votes

Fizz is fine. He isn't designed to be kited by an ADC. If you actually have the ability to kite him, it actually means his damage isn't at the point where he can blow you up, so there isn't much of a problem. Also if you're playing non dash ADC's into him you're basically signing your own death warrant, so good luck.

Nucleophilic atkOct 11, 20145 votes

"That champion counters mine. Must nerf that champion" is all I see when I read these type of posts.

HayaishiOct 11, 20142 votes

"That champion counters mine. Must nerf that champion" is all I see when I read these type of posts.

More like he's a bullshit champion that somehow doesn't get nerfed when better designed assassins do.

Nucleophilic atkOct 11, 20144 votes

He doesn't get nerfed because he isn't a problem for good players.

Tundra FizzOct 11, 20143 votes

I like the attitude of the people here a lot more than in the old forums. :D

NoMonkuOct 12, 20141 votes

He is fine where he is. He isn't as broken as Talon and LB were so he doesn't receive the kind of nerfs they did. He is similar to Zed in that he has actual counterplay. While for less skilled players who can't handle him, he is overbearing and you want nerfs, but for people who are moderately skilled they have some actual counterplay options against him. They can flash/dash/jump away from his E and QSS/Zhonya's his R. Doing one of these usually guarentee's he won't 100-0 you allowing for you to turn on him if he dove into the back lines alone.

Tundra FizzOct 11, 20145 votes

"Any projectile mid air targeted at fizz still hits him when he uses playful/trickster."

Any ranged auto attack mid-air

Point and click abilities such as annie Q

Caitlyn ult if the projectile is mid air, if not, it cancels the ult

This has happened a couple times in the past due to bugs, but Riot fixed it.

Everyone got a chance to experience what this was like multiple times, and I'd think if Riot liked how the bug affected Fizz, they would have changed how his E worked permanently.

Desmond LawOct 11, 20144 votes

The jumping animation should break targeted spells and be invulnerable to skillshots, but while on the pole, he should be targetable and hittable with skillshots.

A serial feederOct 11, 20144 votes

yes i agree with this. After talon was nerfed fizz is now the top assassin and as we all know all assassin's need to be nerfed since they can get fed and 1 shot someone with no defensive items. let's just ignore the adc with 110% free attack speed has 2 ways to keep someone off of her does not really on cd has a reset and has a member of the team dedicated to keeping her safe yes down with assassins and make marksmen unstoppable.

Nucleophilic atkOct 11, 20144 votes

I don't main Fizz. That being said, I think he is perfectly fine. I certainly don't think he is OP.

PhoenixOfHeavenOct 11, 20143 votes

These R Great ideas! especially the Targetable/invincible thing.

ElectrosphereOct 11, 20142 votes

Then the last of the assassins is gone. Assassins are getting hit pretty hard this season. Pre S4 pretty much all popular assassins were nerfed. Zed fell out of top tier early, but in S4 world he is again a good pick since most assassins were nerfed again somewhere mid-S4. Even jungle assassin got hit (Rengar, Kha'zix). Assassins are already balanced. Keep nerfing any assassin who can still put up a good fight is going to enforce the dumb meta of ADC+waveclear mid+ 2 glorified support+support. Do you have to make the problem bigger?

The LexerOct 11, 20141 votes

I don't think he should still take damage, but being able to target him would be better. (maybe only auto attacks hit him)

Remlap1223Oct 12, 20141 votes

Fizz needs something out of his kit. I'm sorry, but unit collsion ignore, damage reduction, damage over time, grievous wounds, invulnerability on a 6 second cooldown, a huge crowd control ultimate on one champion? B-L-O-A-T-E-D. Honestly, since Sheen builds out of item 3113 now anyways, why can't we stick that on Lich Bane, so Fizz doesn't get to waddle away from high aggro early game?