I don't know what game you ADC whiners are playing

Kythers·Mar 13, 2018·8 votes·282 views

An ADC is actually beyond useless without a team to back it up. 2/3 of the champion pool can solo an ADC with 1 item less. What you're feeling, that of the ADC making you lose, is the other team playing better than yours. Just because ADC is doing most of the damage in the fight, doesn't mean it's the reason you lost. That's their fucking job and if they weren't outputting that much damage they wouldn't be worth playing. In another situation they often do absolutely nothing.

I've had so many games where both ADCs are complete non-factors. Get zoned the entire game by a tank that got fed, who takes 1/20 of its life bar every time ADC hits it, then gets shields/heals. Fed ADCs that win lane then can't do shit because an Evelynn or Leblanc got fed also and just delete them whenever they enter the fight.

I honestly don't understand where this hate-jerk is coming from

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Taliyah RocksMar 13, 20184 votes

Botlane is a stompfest. Whoever gets a slight lead stomps the other. Since adc itemizetion is so cheap AND scales exponentially, whichever adc gets their items first can just run down the other adc. The only exceptions are lategame adc that may be able to make a big return if they get a chance to scale up.
ADC itemization is not only cheap, it's also very strong. ADC get their huge powerspike after their 2nd item (mostly after getting both ) or even sooner if they're Varus or Kog and get their completed. Also the waveclear they get from Statik allows them to not only play safe, but push very effectively and burst people quite fast. A few seasons ago adc champs got their powerspike at their 3rd or 4th item. In the current meta, almost any adc will outscale anyone once they reach lategame.
Strong adc means that the value of tanks go up. Since adc deal so much damage in teamfights, secondary damage sources like bruisers and divers aren't neccessary to kill the enemy team, so the best comps have a heavy frontline that can both engage and peel for their primary damage source, the adc. So whoever is crying about "tank meta" is actually all about how strong adc are right now.
You would think that stronger adc would mean that the assassin class would shine since they can kill squishies, but you'd be wrong. There are so many ways to protect an adc nowadays, heal, shield, peel, lifesteal, GA, etc. it's almost impossible to kill an adc with an assassin. Also, if both the assassin and adc are full build, it is possible for the adc to out-trade the assassin/fighter and outright kill them, even without the help of a support. Not only can a lategame adc match the burst of an assassin, they can sustain that damage AT RANGE.

ADC only struggle when their team comp is poor and they have no peel and the enemy team has divers. But give them a strong frontline plus a support to protect them and they outshine any other class.

MrHaZeYoMar 13, 20181 votes

This.

KythersMar 14, 20182 votes

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Botlane is a stompfest. Whoever gets a slight lead stomps the other. Since adc itemizetion is so cheap AND scales exponentially, whichever adc gets their items first can just run down the other adc. The only exceptions are lategame adc that may be able to make a big return if they get a chance to scale up.

ADC itemization is not only cheap, it's also very strong. ADC get their huge powerspike after their 2nd item (mostly after getting both ) or even sooner if they're Varus or Kog and get their completed. Also the waveclear they get from Statik allows them to not only play safe, but push very effectively and burst people quite fast. A few seasons ago adc champs got their powerspike at their 3rd or 4th item. In the current meta, almost any adc will outscale anyone once they reach lategame.

Strong adc means that the value of tanks go up. Since adc deal so much damage in teamfights, secondary damage sources like bruisers and divers aren't neccessary to kill the enemy team, so the best comps have a heavy frontline that can both engage and peel for their primary damage source, the adc. So whoever is crying about "tank meta" is actually all about how strong adc are right now.

You would think that stronger adc would mean that the assassin class would shine since they can kill squishies, but you'd be wrong. There are so many ways to protect an adc nowadays, heal, shield, peel, lifesteal, GA, etc. it's almost impossible to kill an adc with an assassin. Also, if both the assassin and adc are full build, it is possible for the adc to out-trade the assassin/fighter and outright kill them, even without the help of a support. Not only can a lategame adc match the burst of an assassin, they can sustain that damage AT RANGE.

ADC only struggle when their team comp is poor and they have no peel and the enemy team has divers. But give them a strong frontline plus a support to protect them and they outshine any other class.

I could write a post exactly like this about the other 2 lanes

FOR JUSTICEMar 13, 20182 votes

STOP you making legitimate arguments isn't allowed on the boards.

Ahri BakaMar 13, 20182 votes

Well the ones who started this whole thing were Tanks " who are complaining about getting melted by adc while it's their job " And Assassins " who keep attacking an adc who has a Janna to protect as if Janna exists to watch the adc die " " or assassins such as Zed who keep engaging 5 vs 5 fights and then run away because they couldn't kill the adc who is around 4 of his teammates " Seriously tho , an assassin mission to assassinate the enemy before they even realize , like hiding in a bush and Zed w q e aa combo would work in less than a second without anyone noticing , Duskblade already shows if the bush is warded or not , if they can't play assassins the way assassins are meant to be played , they better stop playing that role The main problem right now is players themselves who are making more process in bot lane , like junglers ganks at level 3 and camping , or mid and top laners roaming all the time , bot lane has 2 players , a good gank means 2 kills and a tower ,that's what created this meta While I do agree ad carries damage must be decreased by like 20-30% with life steal too , but boards should shut up about this adc thing , we already know the problem , they are just like those guys who keep saying " report Yasuo" 20 times in a match.

TokogawarufMar 14, 20182 votes

So much this. Its almost impossible to roam the forum for 10 Minutes without seeing yet 3 more Threads to this Problem. We know, Riot knows, we all know. They are working on a Solution, of course its taking longer than one Patch to not cripple an entire Class whilst starting another Tank Meta, which honestly is the Reason why we even have this "Problem" to begin with

PurgëMar 13, 20181 votes

HOLY FUK , THE ONLY CLASS THAT CAN BEAT THE RANGED ASSAINS .AKA "adcs" IS THE OTHER ASSAINS ASSAINS ARE BUSTED AS FUK ALL OF THEM THAT DOSNT MEAN THAT THE RANGED ASSAINS ARE WEAK BRUISERS AND DPS MELLE CHAMPS GET SHT ON AND ARE USELSS IN TEAMFIGHTS SINCE THEY CANT EVEN KILL THE ADC AND NOW THEY ALSO CANT SPLIT PUSH CAUSE EVERYONEE CAN HOLD THEM + CHAMPS LIKE TWITCH AND EVEYLNN BEING PLAYED EVERYGAME AND AS THIS WASNT ENOUGH THEY ALSO GET THE MEGA BUFFING SUPP ALSO TELL ME WHY DOES ADC CORE ITEMS TO SCALE TO INFINITY COST 3400+2600+2600 when they scale TO THE ETERNITY WHILE BRUISERS HAVE THERE CORE ITEM COSTING 3700+3400+2900 WHEN THEY SCALE MUCH LESS WHY WOULD U PLAY ANYTHING OTHER THEN ADCS AT THIS POINT U WANT TO SPLIT PUSH ? U PICK AN ADC .WANT AN ASSAISIN PICK AN ADC WANTS A FRONTILNE PICK AN ADC WITH A SHEILING SUPPORT