So Everyone Believes Jarvan Should Be Nerfed....
Though....no matter what they touch. No matter if they give him 30 base AD. I'm still building him full tank and laugh as I may not do damage (which I don't seriously build damage on him anyway unless you count Thornmail) but I'll be damned if I don't get to ult you and your entire team and /laugh as they kill you. In all seriousness though, I have faced and I do play J4 quite a bit. I see J4's grab damage early and melt people, which true it's pretty powerful. However, I find tanky J4 more fun. NO DAMAGE. Pure armor, MR, and HP.