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Are You Actually Fucking Serious, Riot?

Hellish Prophecy··101 votes·7,837 views

Riot I made a post on Report a Bug section about how ever since this patch, insane ping spikes have come in while I'm playing and it's pissing me off. I also said instead of immediately removing the thread, take a look and TRY to help and be useful. 10 minutes later you remove the thread just to mess with me? So here is Boards Feedback so you can't remove it for that crap. Screw these boards. How about taking a look at ACTUAL PROBLEMS. The problem I was having GOES INTO THE REPORT A BUG SECTION. I did also state that people are getting fucking fed up with your crap and you avoiding discussing about YOUR fuck-ups. I KNOW it's not my problem I am getting spikes. I KNOW I'm not the only one getting them. And I KNOW they have occurred only with the recent patch. Some more Boards Feedback? Here you go. I hate these boards. You never look at anything important, and are too busy commenting about a skin design that you will never make, and ignoring reports about bugs and broken champs that either NEED a buff, or NEED a nerf. Fits into Boards Feedback now. So how about actually doing something important and fixing your game while NOT tossing away criticism aimed at YOU for YOUR fuck ups.

EDIT: As I said in my first post before it got deleted, I know this is salty and rage-induced. BUT my point still stands. I make no excuses for my anger as it went too far, but it is still frustrating for these spikes to continue almost every game since the patch came out.

EDIT 2: Removed some of the needless profanity. Kept some for emphasis on what I'm trying to get across. As I am still angry over this, but thankfully not as angry as when I posted this.

EDIT 3: Happy Holidays.

Side edit: Note that the teambuilder skin bug is still going.

78 Comments

DWT1234538 votes

As ragey as this thread is, it is completely true. When riot does post about something, it is the most fucking useless thing they could say.

Hellish Prophecy13 votes

My first post I admitted I was raging and I apologized but it was ridiculous. Then they deleted it for a BS reason and I lost it.

Rock Rockburgh4 votes

Really, it depends on the Rioter.

Riot Sargonas and Riot Morgageddon, for instance, both posted serious responses to a thread about merchandise arriving damaged due to insufficient packaging; given that they were discussing their plans to fix the issue and replace the damaged statue, I'd say that's pretty helpful.

Riot Frosthaven posted to talk about difficulties logging into other-region Boards. (Though by this time I was on the second page of the red tracker... most red posts DO seem to be pretty pointless.)

I know I've seen a few other helpful red posts. Stashu WAS discussing Cass suggestions at one point, don't know if he still is. Really, the issue is that the people who know things about the current issues (server maintenance, balance, etc.) are totally unrelated to the people whose jobs involve posting on the boards.

Takillya10 votes

tis the season to be toxic

Hellish Prophecy28 votes

Normally I do not get angry, but the recent patch causes insane issues and what Riot just pulled is ridiculous.

redniwediS5 votes

It doesn't matter why you're angry, toxic is toxic. Riot isn't to blame for your mouth.

Hellish Prophecy10 votes

I admitted it's my fault I'm angry on previous board they deleted for no reason. But does it explain a fuck up on their part?

redniwediS3 votes

Their part is their part, if your part is toxic then it's simply toxic. No need to read into it.

Hellish Prophecy12 votes

So if I'm angry because of a patch they fucked up on, my argument is immediately invalid because I'm angry? I have no right to report how much bullshit their patch is if I am angry over it? I could have said a lot worse, but what I said was enough for people with sense to get my point. This patch is pissing me off, and I know it's my fault for having a natural human emotion and channeling it the wrong way, but that does not mean they did nothing wrong.

redniwediS5 votes

Please don't put words in my mouth and please read my posts in a literal sense, with nothing hidden between the lines. Everything can be said in a non-toxic way, even an incredibly hateful post can be made while treating others with respect.

I made no comment on your or their wrongness in anything, I'm just saying there's better ways to discuss high emotion topics. You appeared to be transferring the blame of your angry reaction to them, and while they are the catalyst for your anger you are the only cause.

Hellish Prophecy7 votes

Apologies I might have just read your comment the wrong way. I am reading your post in a literal sense, but due to my experience of a lot of Youtube comments and my involvement with them (hilarious, eh?) I assume always that there is something else I am missing or..well I can't quite explain. Anyway... I do not mean to treat other people with hatred, I honestly just want this patch fixed. Very true there is a better way to discuss this, and I am not..."necessarily" blaming Riot for my anger. Allow me to explain further best I can. I have been here for quite a few years, I've been through the toxic player role, I used to be toxic, I went through the process of becoming a nicer and positive player, ect. So I know what being toxic consists of. Riot messed up this patch hard. That is true. I do not "blame" them for my anger, merely their fuck-up on this patch frustrated me heavily...so I suppose I am blaming them. But onward to the next level. Yes I am transferring my anger to them and blaming them for my anger, however calm as I am now, I see that was a mistake, and I see that my anger problem is the only reason I SHOULD be angry. I however, have the right to be angry (of course not to an extreme like I did) at Riot because of a simple mistake they are making. They messed up a patch. People are complaining and pointing it out by locating several bugs and issues ever since the patch started. However, they are making posts about "Christmas loot" instead of resolving or responding to the issues named. And this harms them big-time. That angers me more than anything-that they have tossed aside the complaints and are posting or commenting on things that have nothing important about them. They are the catalyst, but once again you are right that I could have handled this better. And I apologize and thank you for pointing this out.

Karcist13 votes

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It doesn't matter why you're angry, toxic is toxic. Riot isn't to blame for your mouth.

Honestly, they really are at this point.

redniwediS11 votes

I know two things that prove you wrong on this, one's called tact and the other is self control.

fluxanna3 votes

Redniew, I suppose you've just never been mad in your life.

Hellish Prophecy6 votes

Everyone gets angry. Some can control it better. I usually can control it or channel it better but....some things drive me over the edge. Red here might have better control over his/her anger.

Bolwinkel2 votes

Riot is to blame for all of these lag functions. I know at least 20 of my friend are having trouble logging on and it all started right after 4.21. Riot has no idea how the fuck to run a server or a game. They go and fuck something up with the server and will take it down for 12 hours and not even tell us what they did except for "Serious lag. NA offline. Back up in 1 hour. Edit: Back up in 3 hours. Edit: Back up in 6 hours". It's also bullshit that EU gets 2 servers and NA, which is 2.5 times larger than EU, gets only 1. Why the fuck doesn't NA have at least 3 servers riot????

redniwediS1 votes

That's not at all what we were talking about right here... We had an offshoot discussion that was not tied to the servers what so ever.

SorryBoysImLes10 votes

Riot certified/trained response for all their employees.

Alljoy4 votes

Amen.

Mellori3 votes

Yeah, I posted about the firewall popup that they claimed they fixed a few days ago, yet showed up THAT NIGHT 27 times in a row (for the same game, even) when I tried to play an ARAM. I posted on the bug report threads with a title "Firewall Popup Still Not Fixed" and it got deleted. No reason given.

I posted again, as they gave me no reason as to why it was deleted, I just figured I hadn't added the "[Client]" tag like I was supposed to, and I changed the name up a bit. "[Client] Firewall Popup Still Appearing" was my second post, and I outlined the same information about how it popped up multiple times after they said they fixed it. That thread was also deleted, this time with the explanation of "wrong board"

DexterousGecko3 votes

Your attitude leaves something to be desired, but you have a point. There have been obvious issues since the latest patch and I don't see Riot saying anything about them at all. A thread detailing some of the reported issues would be appreciated.

Hellish Prophecy2 votes

Hah. Watch them finally do something about it then post "with help from very angry player..." but yes I was mad when I posted this. But my point stands.

Hyrum Graff2 votes

Placeholder for when I'm not on mobile.

Tl;dr technically your post violated guidelines but in this case Riot should have made an exception. Mods need better communication with Riot.

#From Bug Reports guidelines: Please do NOT post about disconnects or lag. Instead redirect those problems to Help & Support.

Hence your post about lag/dc was removed from bug reports. However, there are some cases when it's obviously on Riot's end.

fluxanna2 votes

I'm with OP! My most effing random threads get deleted. They delete ANYTHING that just clutters the place, even if deleting a thread won't make a pint of a difference.

IeI k2 votes

From my point of view, I have not observed ping spikes from the past 3 weeks that I've started playing again nor did any of my friends complained to me about any ping spike and such while playing with me or chatting with me. Ping is usually associated with internet provider. Perhaps everyone that is having the ping spike is from around the same area and using the same internet provider? I'm not saying the fault lies in your internet provider, but there is a possibility.

Hellish Prophecy3 votes

I've checked, rechecked, and checked again on it. I don't want to blame Riot for this I really don't, but I only had this happen twice during my time of playing League. This ONLY started once they released patch 4.21. And even a family member who also plays checked it out for himself, and was surprised to get such massive ping spikes when he has a much better computer than I do, as he built it himself. And was getting ping spikes just as massive as mine. He called the Internet provider, he reset everything, and we even took note it was only on League of Legends were there interruptions on our gameplay. After trying quite a few things and taking note once again this only started with the recent patch, the only possibility is the patch. And how bad it's been for a lot of people considering the bugs, firewalls, and the such.

Bolwinkel1 votes

I have TWC (IK it's shit) and my ping has been shit ever since 4.21 came out. Yes i did have ping spikes in the past but it was in one game out of 100 not every fucking game. Also i noticed that now when i play league ever since 4.21 came out it's been destroying my internet signal throughout my house so that it would be strongest only in my room.

Fibrillous2 votes

it could also be that riot wants their forums to be a bit more family friendly. You might have brought up a good point but since you brought it up with so much hate, it's hard to see past that. that hate can't be tolerated either, so they remove your post.

come on dude, think.

Hellish Prophecy1 votes

Removing some of the profanity now. Some people are making a good point on how it's hard to focus on the main topic when there is so much vulgar language.

Wilmgaard1 votes

Have you tried looking into your own hardware/software/settings? Perhaps if you listed the things you've tried to fix the lag and what sort of results it has (or has not) produced, community members could direct you in other things to try. For example, I have no lag spikes while i play, so I seriously doubt this is on Riot. Check you league settings: turn off vsync and turn down the graphics settings as the patch may have reset some settings you previously had for the game. Update your drivers (including your network card drivers). Put some effort in and maybe people will be more inclined to help you out!

Hellish Prophecy1 votes

If you noticed a comment I replied to earlier, a family member and I both checked everything and contacted the provider. Nothing has changed on our side. And his computer which is much better and expensive than mine has gotten a few spikes of it's own ONLY on League. This only happens on League, and not on any other games we play.

Origami Kaiju1 votes

I know you're upset. The firewall bug and lagging lately really has been annoying, and I've experienced it first hand.

But I wonder if it would be more productive to not use curse-words, insults and offensive language, you know? Like, when they read that stuff, they may not take your post seriously.

I've just found that people are more likely to respond and engage in dialogue when you approach them in a respectful way.

P.s it is christmas :3

Hellish Prophecy2 votes

Apologies for that. As a matter of fact I'll remove SOME profanity now.

Origami Kaiju1 votes

Awesome! :D That's cool of you.

Lolibird1 votes

Thanks Riot. A lot :) Now I actually have incentive to quit the game, as I have whined and complained so many times before in and out of the game. I know it's Christmas, but the ping fucking SUCKS. The East Coast especially fuckin sucks. And it's not just Christmas where no Rioter is working too hard; it's everyday.

XVI Jake IVX1 votes

Riot is giving me more and more reasons to quit. (Started game in 2010) League of legends 2010 was the best.

Above 1000+ ap... was hella fun! I MISS IT

ïîï1 votes

conspiracy theory!!!!

Riot logo is a fist used by puppeteers http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/468669118157895614/5435C77410EA79ED373864A918AFAA08E139EF33/

They banned bad comments to only keep good talk on this forum. They also never reply to bad comments.

Look at their "Tales of the Black Mist: The Harrowing" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s2FFGBPXNeU

http://lienminh360.vn/wp-content/uploads/2014/10/puppetmaster.jpg

This forum is the Black Mist!!!! The Harrowing is Here!!!

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M0sAVtOt2wA

Drunk Old Man1 votes

I know I'll probably receive flak and downvotes for saying this, but.. it's not 100% Riot's fault. In fact, I'd say they carry around 50% of the blame, if not less for some individuals. As someone who's run various game servers before (some for tens of thousands of players at one point) I can attest that a large amount of our network related problems were due to bad connections with our upstream providers. I'm not saying this is your case, but it could be.

I'll check into the game server situation when I get home using some of my remote comps from diff states and such. Can you give me your general location and ping range? I'll look into this more today if I can. I haven't played a lot on this patch yet as I've been busy.

Also, they delete threads with excessive profanity. Removing the cursing would probably have saved the thread.

Drunk Old Man1 votes

I did UDP bandwidth tests on 6 computers remotely placed in different areas of the US, including mine in California. The tests used PsPing to do a 100MB bandwidth test. I saw issues with two computers, but the rest were completely fine with no packet loss (aside from DC, where there was some jitter problems)

The two with issues are on Verizon Fios internet, so there may be a routing problem between Fios and Riot's up-stream provider, which is likely what you're running into.

A great article to read would be this one on disabling net heuristics on Windows to improve performance.

ShinoRyusei1 votes

My disscusion I just posted got removed not even 5 min after posting cause Riot cant take critisizim. such a joke Why is it that League of Legends does not work 50% of the time. This games is suppose to be at the head of the market and Riot can't even get their game to work. You guys spend millions to get tournements set up and you cant even get you servers to work properly. Over the holiday season, Riot severs are totally impossible it get into. I keep getting notifcations that is my problem or that its on my end but I follow all the instructions that I am told by Riot and it still does not work. "Check you firewall, check your connection..etc" my connection is fine, your servers need to be fixed. League of legends should not have this problem. You guys say you are working on it? well how come Blizzard can fix their stuff and you can't? Oh wait, Blizzard cares about its players. Riot, you guys don't even try and apologize about how broken your game is. If anyone at Riot reads this, I doubt they will take it seriously. They will probably have a machine answer it or ignore it. IF they do respond to it, it will probably get me banned from the game because they don't want to hear how bad they are. There is a standard that you have to follow and you guys are way below it. So many of companies have problems as well but you guys, you guys don't even try. Hopefully other players will read this and agree because it should take hours to try and log in. this game should be giving me hours of fun, not hours of waiting. Go ahead and take this post down if you want but it will just prove that you would rather shut out the truth from an actual player then acknowledge you guys need to get your stuff fixed. I do in fact enjoy your game but why can't I even access it half the time? Seriously, get your shit together Riot.

Bolwinkel1 votes

What i don't fucking understand is why the fuck EU has 2 servers and NA only has 1. NA is 2.5 times larger than EU is and we only have 1 server for all of NA where EU has two. Why the fuck doesn't NA have at least 3 servers riot, huh?

Kaipop1 votes

I actually didn't see anyone else talking about the increased ping and large spikes so I thought it was just me and I was worried. Glad to see other people are having issues with it. But it's happening pretty much every game and making LoL unplayable for me so please fix Riot.

Rikari1 votes

I actually commented on ping spikes and the lag,people keep giving me bs responses like "happens when my room mate streams". I also get a weird delay that feels like lag but is not,ping and fps are fine.

SirFeedselot1 votes

Reminds me of that rant that got deleted a couple times and ended up being edited into nothing but nice things to say about Riot lol.

spawnman621 votes

Completely agree with OP. Lag spikes are redonk since 4.21. Nothing better than having to play champs that don't have skill shots because you can never guarantee when the spike will happen.

Ashes Arise1 votes

Riot in general is slipping pretty damn hard. This isn't the same game I picked up 2 years ago.

XVI Jake IVX1 votes

Not the same game I picked up 5 years ago. 2010 player.

AftermathLoL1 votes

Even though this was extremely rage induced, I totally agree 100%. Flat out, plain and simple: League has sucked since your rift update, Riot. Please fix this ASAP b/c ranked season is coming up, and if I can't even play a normal without sitting at 2000 ping, then how can you expect anyone to play ranked. I used to run 80-90 ping before this update and I understand that updates come with bugs, but this is just unreal. Almost no one can play, so do your skins and new champs really matter right now? No. Why? Because we won't be able to use them.

XVI Jake IVX1 votes

Yo. I agree with you! I ask assistance for riot to help me out on my chat issues and than talked to one in the client and they said " Sorry ,but can't talk right now working" I was like what the **** it's your job. At least try to help me. Plus I was this rioters friend. I was horrified that my favorite rioter couldn't even help me on that chat services. My chat issues are BS. I don't know how to fix them either. I kind of can relate to how you are feeling! Riot you need to do something about this. Get a better support team or get a support team that views the threads. You will be losing eventually due to not listening to us. This person made up a good point.

My ping goes up to 900 at beginning than drops to 80. I just wish riot would help me on my "connecting to chat issues" I have to every time allow league of legends on firewall. Sorry I just need somewhere to put this out here and this seems like the right topic:

  1. I have reset computer to factory settings.
  2. I have re-installed league of legends.
  3. I have disable internet explorer than enable it.
  4. I have updated fire wall and still am having problems with chat.
  5. I have to re update fire wall every day/
  6. I have tried asking a rioter friend and they said " Sorry ,but can't talk right now working " WOW Just imagine a rioter saying that to you when you ask for help. Please do so. Be sure its your favorite rioter. ._.
  7. I have internet searched than took someone advice ,but still fails...

Good night!

Have fun on the ranking! I improved! :D I am now Bronze V! :) I am no longer Wood V. 6 wins 4 loses :P

Have an awesome time guys/gals on league.

2010 player here. LoL has changed. Riot is changing.

Edit:

Dayum my favorite rioter removed me. No surprises there. I advertised it to like 60 friends. O well.

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