How do I use Shaco now?

Asudurga·Sep 12, 2017·2 votes·559 views

So, I wanted to come back to Shaco after a long time after his nerfs and changes in normals jungle. And hooooly hell he feels so different it hurts.

Any tips, please?

9 Comments

DSØSep 12, 20171 votes

just hit the afk button

Zed geniusSep 12, 20171 votes

lethality is a trap, u shouldn't build it, same goes with crit. The build I use is item 1041 (which u sell later) item 3077 item 3078 item 3748 item 3053 or item 3156 (depending on team comp) item 3026 and then item 3153 or item 3035 if they have 2 or more tanks and situationally item 3075 item 3194 item 3143 item 3742 For summs u can still get ignite but also flash if u choose to. His early game is weak as hell so don't go on a ganking streak before 1 or 2 items

AsudurgaSep 12, 20171 votes

So I rush tiamat into a trinity?

Troy242621Sep 16, 20171 votes

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lethality is a trap, u shouldn't build it, same goes with crit. The build I use is (which u sell later) or (depending on team comp) and then or if they have 2 or more tanks and situationally For summs u can still get ignite but also flash if u choose to. His early game is weak as hell so don't go on a ganking streak before 1 or 2 items

I don't agree that lethality is a trap. Sure the classic Shaco build works, but lethality really is good for popping a single target, which then leads to more consistent kills early game to snowball with and ramfuck the game over.

The increased movement speed allows you to stop levelling Q at 3 because moving faster while invis lets you cover more distance, thus letting you max E after hitting lv 6 for increased overall damage while still maintaining your Q's effectiveness.

L Psy KongrooSep 12, 20171 votes

Short answer: you don't.

Long answer: I'm too lazy to explain everything, but basically he was beaten to death with the nerf bat several weeks after his rework. Riot has officially given up on him. He is now the new Yorick; destined to be forgotten about forever.

DECEIVE YOUSep 12, 20173 votes

Thats where we, Shaco mains kick in, no matter how nerfed we will play him and make him work

GildarztSep 13, 20171 votes

[katarina-love]

Darkdemon653Sep 12, 20171 votes

By leaving him in the champion select screen

Rand0mH3r0XSep 13, 20171 votes

You don't.

AP Shaco has been changed to allow counter-play. Counter-play meaning you can only activate one box at a time. His ultimate, which drops boxes with really low health, is only effective if you decide to walk to the location where they spawned and wait a couple seconds, the fear usually helps you navigate away from them if you get feared (due to the short attack range) so that by the end of the fear you're already safe.

AD Shaco has crit that scales with AP, or in other words a useless 30% one time on-hit modifier. New stealth mechanics mean that if you do AoE damage, like another Jungler Shyvana or Lee'e, Shaco can be easily spotted. The large radius of Oracles allows you to pin-point Shaco quite easily as well. If the boxes attack anything, Shaco is instantly unstealthed. This means if Shaco puts a box in a bush to prevent a counter-gank, scuttle will activate it and Shaco will be hopelessly pushing into lane with no escape. Shaco's clone doesn't take all debuffs or buffs. So the real Shaco can easily be spotted visually by checking particles, or checking which Shaco has buffs or debuffs.

The new Shaco is the player's dream when it comes to dealing with the old Shaco. Lots of opportunities for really easy counter-play.

The one cool thing about Shaco is his teleport. Shaco can be stealthed for up to 6 seconds, allowing him to jump across the friendly jungle with ease once every 20 or so seconds.