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Zoe made me realize I don't have fun playing League anymore

rtbf233629886·1/20/2018, 3:58:55 AM·45 votes·3,508 views

I know Zoe has been controversial and many have already complained about her, so I don't want to dwell on her specifically.

However, since her release, the amount of time I have played League has steadily decreased. I used to play 6+ games a day at one point in my life, and now I am down to just a couple of games per week.

It sucks that Riot is more committed to releasing new champions with overloaded kits rather than addressing many of the existing champions who see very infrequent play. For example, I don't know why Zoe is rewarded for missing her E (it turns into a huge area of denial) when Blitzcrank gets punished for simply using his W. Further, some champs like LB and Viktor have sucked for a while now and don't see much attention; I should add I know Viktor recently saw some buffs, but they aren't much and were LONG overdue considering he was beyond useless ever since the Rylai nerfs took effect. Other champs like Aurelion Sol are completely unrewarding to play as they take a lot of effort and don't reward the player for high skill cap. There is such a large imbalance of risk-reward among champions that is is pretty ridiculous.

If you watch the DOTA championships, almost every hero got played through the entirety of their tournament. Now don't get me wrong, DOTA has several of its own issues. However, that game does a lot better of a job making sure all of its heroes have usefulness and are viable to play. League is far from that - every 2-3 months we get a new "meta' where just a handful of champs are A+ tier, while every other champ is crap due to runes or itemization.

Going back to Zoe - League is getting stale. I'm tired of the game revolving around such a small pool of champs, with most new releases being incredibly broken and old champs just forgotten about. Kudos to Riot for going back to redesign some old champions, but IMO it's too little too late, and the reworks are not always great anyway; I still never see anyone playing as Urgot for example.

Get your shit together Riot

48 Comments

Tykenn1/20/2018, 5:01:13 PM7 votes

Say what you will, but Zoe isn't overloaded, play her yourself and you'll see. Instead of moaning about something you don't full understand yet.

Madsin251/20/2018, 5:04:43 PM3 votes

League IMO is bad right now for many reasons.

Lazy balancing has taken away our freedom of runes/masteries in place of the most boring and repetitive garbage we call "runes reforged". If you can't balance your broken champions over a fun and engaging system well time to rethink what you are doing.
The damage. I am so sick and tired of getting BLASTED by someone who is just a little more fed than me. thanks top/bot lane. (yes I do feed too and they roam and annihilate my team but my point still stands.)
Winning feels bad, losing feels terrible. The icing on the cake though is after you win(stomp) 5 times in a row they match you with players that are much worse than you. You get stomped two or three times. Cycle repeats. I get a good game maybe 1/5 games. I get a great game maybe 1/20.

I play for now but I am not sure how much longer I can keep this League of one shots up.

P4ppino1/20/2018, 12:14:36 PM2 votes

Yea I can understand your grievance, considering the fact that you play kindred and teemo jungle exclusively. Even though teemo can be very effective on top lane, these 2 picks are truly terrible. I suggest you try to play actual good champions on their intended role, and you will start having fun.

Kha'zix for example is really fun and strong in the jungle atm, same can be said for kayn. Or if you wanna play tank junglers, sejuani is your best bet, jarvan is also good.

Nea1041/20/2018, 1:38:31 PM2 votes

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every 2-3 months we get a new "meta' where just a handful of champs are A+ tier, while every other champ is crap due to runes or itemization.

Indeed, it's intentional; it's their way to keep the game "fresh", even if of course they never say it ("whoops sorry for that, it was a mistake we've fixed after 2 whole months, nothing suspect"). As for the forced 50% win ratio matchmaking system :P i really despise both of these things, and the ambiguity about it.

d4rkshock1/20/2018, 4:15:47 AM2 votes

Actually S7 had more reworks than any other season as far as my knowledge goes but I only started late into s4 so what do I know. We had evelynn, xin Zhao, Warwick, rammus, urgot, aatrox, and a couple others. There's so the assassin and tank reworks. Also riot still has no shortage of old champions that are problematic such as nunu, aatrox, swain (the teaser is out), ramus, etc. The aatrox and rammmus reworks were there just to tide them over until they can release a full vgu for them but others like shyvana and Xin Zhao just were in a bad spot and just needed a slight update.

I do kind agree more with DotA where if your good on a hero, pick them. Just because they have a 30% winrate doesn't make the bad per say. It just means you need to be Napoleon Dynamite and have good skills like bowhunting skills, motor boating skills, and computer hacking skills 😉. Like for how death prophet has a 47% winrate and I still manage to clear the board as long as everything goes according to plan and my team doesnt throw the game like they have been over and over again for the past several games.

Just One Word1/20/2018, 9:37:36 PM1 votes

Thats the player base, not the game. I mean yeah, its still riot controlling it, because Riot are the ones that give you a honor chest for making the best cancer "jokes" in /all chat, and Riot are the ones that decide that Tyler1 creates the kind of content that they want to see attract new players.

But that "A+ Tier" and considering champion unviable, that was something the players invented. Heck, it even took quite a while before Riot even started to use the word "Meta". Players started to mock each other for their picks even during champselect. Riot never imposed limitations on what you can or cannot do in terms of how widely you make use of their champion pool.

Players decide what they are going to play, and whoever gets bored with this impressive champion pool clearly isnt trying a sufficient amount of champions.

HaIlMonitor1/20/2018, 10:14:53 PM1 votes

Dota also doesn't add a new champion (or two) basically every other patch. Riot needs to stop with new champs and just update and balance the current ones. All of the Stat check (Yi, Irelia, Riven) champs should be redone and the super annoying champs like Nunu that dont do anytrhing but piss off their opponent (if they are not even fun to beat because of how annoying they are) they should change their kit.

ƒrostγ1/21/2018, 12:07:44 AM1 votes

Can't you just bann her if she's the reason you're not playing?

KoKoboto1/21/2018, 2:40:34 AM1 votes

Thanks for taking my words out of my mouth! I feel the exact same way :^)

Would've typed something up but I really don't care enough about League of Legends at all anymore to say anything major about balance.

SzGamer2271/21/2018, 3:22:35 AM1 votes

You make it sound like an easy job that they're just neglecting to do. There hare hundreds of champions being played by millions of people, and each of those people has a different set of problems with the game, painted by the unique experience with in their games, their preferred roles and positions, the champions they happen to play (or want to play), the kind of game they want League to be, etc. etc.

There are thousands of things that Riot can tweak, but they are only able to confidently change a few dozen every patch, and regardless of which ones they choose to tackle first, lots of people are going to think that they made the wrong choice or that something else was more important.

Douglas Funnie1/21/2018, 3:30:59 AM1 votes

New champions with RNG being released soon

Jew Stomper1/21/2018, 8:28:33 AM1 votes

Huh, my experience has been opposite.

DNFVixen1/20/2018, 4:09:02 PM1 votes

{quoted}

I know Zoe has been controversial and many have already complained about her, so I don't want to dwell on her specifically.

However, since her release, the amount of time I have played League has steadily decreased. I used to play 6+ games a day at one point in my life, and now I am down to just a couple of games per week.

It sucks that Riot is more committed to releasing new champions with overloaded kits rather than addressing many of the existing champions who see very infrequent play. For example, I don't know why Zoe is rewarded for missing her E (it turns into a huge area of denial) when Blitzcrank gets punished for simply using his W. Further, some champs like LB and Viktor have sucked for a while now and don't see much attention; I should add I know Viktor recently saw some buffs, but they aren't much and were LONG overdue considering he was beyond useless ever since the Rylai nerfs took effect. Other champs like Aurelion Sol are completely unrewarding to play as they take a lot of effort and don't reward the player for high skill cap. There is such a large imbalance of risk-reward among champions that is is pretty ridiculous.

If you watch the DOTA championships, almost every hero got played through the entirety of their tournament. Now don't get me wrong, DOTA has several of its own issues. However, that game does a lot better of a job making sure all of its heroes have usefulness and are viable to play. League is far from that - every 2-3 months we get a new "meta' where just a handful of champs are A+ tier, while every other champ is crap due to runes or itemization.

Going back to Zoe - League is getting stale. I'm tired of the game revolving around such a small pool of champs, with most new releases being incredibly broken and old champs just forgotten about. Kudos to Riot for going back to redesign some old champions, but IMO it's too little too late, and the reworks are not always great anyway; I still never see anyone playing as Urgot for example.

Get your shit together Riot

You expect the riot that has a Chinese company as majority share holder to get shit done, not be greedy and not piss off all the players? HA!

The game stopped being good after season 5. season 6 till now has been "ok" Rammus . Riot needs to drop the keystone idea and go back to classic masteries. The new runesystem is garbage preseason 8 and season 8 fucking sucks

A ton of champions need fixing and they need to drop the new champion shtick and fix and balance ALL champions till they are all balanced then release a new champion if they unbalance the game rebalance everything. It is exactly what dota does and it works.

LordGeovanni1/20/2018, 4:58:35 PM1 votes

10+ 40 + minute games in season 3/4 daily now i bearly get 4 games in mostly because im thick skinned

Jhobi1/20/2018, 6:01:38 PM1 votes

Leblanc is getting changes in the future, and zoe is a completely skill shot based champ, just cc her

r4ndomkill1/20/2018, 7:05:24 PM1 votes

part of the reason dota has so many heros picked in comp is because of the exsistance of hard counters. in league they slowly toned down hard counter auto lose match ups do to the fact not everyone has every champ from the beginning meaning they all have to be more general which leads into just picking which champ is the best one at this moment in time, but in dota they have champs that are complete garbage that are only good at taking down one other champ and that can work since you get all of them from the start.