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Why does Riot start so many features only to not expand on them?

Bard in a Diaper··23 votes·1,567 views

Think about the graveyard of projects that riot has left for dead, not even counting dominion. With hextech crafting coming out it's clear that this is the newest feature they are focused on and I don't want it to be just another "meh" addition to the game.

The honor system is basically nonexistant, I haven't seen a ribbon in years. the only time anyone honors some one is if they are already friends and honor eachother for fun. It is a dead feature that wasn't expanded on at all which is a shame because it had a good premise (Rewarding positive behavior instead of punishing negative behavior)

Champion mastery was a neat little addition to the game, but ok now what? What does it actually do/bring to the game? Not much. There's no real accomplishment or reward associated with it, it just shows that maybe you play a certain champion a lot, not necessarily that you are even good at the champ. This is more recent and they have said they have plans to improve it, but its been a while.

Any sort of guild/team/"club" (which they hinted at in preseason)/social type of platform is basically nonexistant. If you want to find other people to play with, you have to use a 3rd party site like reddit or something. This is a huge fault that SC2 made, whereas broodwar thrived on social interaction. It is needed badly.

Not even going to touch on replays, sandbox mode, etc all the touchy subjects. What's going on with these features Riot and why are they left to the wayside so quickly?

22 Comments

Meep Man11 votes

I've always thought it would be a good for a Lore type grouping system.

Like, if there was a "Guild" for every major city type on each Server and there was a new game type where you could only choose champions from that city. Each team got 1 ban and then they would fight it out with the champions from that nation.

Demacia Garen JarvanIV Kayle Fiora Galio Lucian Lux Poppy Quinn Shyvana Sona Taric Vayne XinZhao Weakness: N/A All Arounder/No Clear Specialty or Weakness

Noxus Darius Swain Morgana Draven Sion Cassiopeia Leblanc Vladimir Urgot Katarina Talon Weakness: Scarcity of Junglers/Supports

Ionia Karma LeeSin Yasuo Shen Kennen Akali Zed MasterYi Ahri Irelia Soraka Bard Jhin Varus Syndra MonkeyKing Weakness: Scarcity of ADCs

Shadow Isles Hecarim Kalista Karthus Mordekaiser Thresh Yorick Elise Evelynn Weaness: Scarcity of Middle Lane

Bandle City Teemo Tristana Corki Rumble Gnar Lulu Veigar Weakness: No Meta Jungler

Bilgewater Gangplank MissFortune Graves TwistedFate Illaoi Fizz Nautilus Nami Weakness: Champions are usually either all damage/little CC or all CC/little damage

Freljord Ashe Sejuani Lissandra Tryndamere Olaf Trundle Braum Volibear Nunu Udyr Brand Anivia Gragas Weakness: Scarcity of ADCs

Piltover Caitlyn Vi Jayce Ezreal Heimerdinger Ziggs Orianna Janna Weakness: No Tanks

Zaun Singed Twitch DrMundo Ekko Warwick Viktor Jinx Zac Blitzcrank Weakness: Lacks Direct Engage/Requires Enemy to Make Mistake Usually to Engage

Shurima Azir Nasus Renekton Xerath Sivir Amumu Kassadin Rammus Skarner Weakness: Fighters are often VERY limited to a specific range always wanting to be close or far

The Void Chogath KogMaw Velkoz Khazix RekSai Malzahar Weakness: Small pool of champions, scarcity of Support

Mount Targon Coming Soon Cause There Isnt Hardly Anyone from Here

Champions that are more individual-like could become, say, champions for hire that each 4 month rotation are sent to a "fitting" faction. This meaning that Aatrox would likely go to the Freljord or Noxus. Nocturne would likely go to Shadow Isles or Noxus. Maoki would likely go to Ionia or Demacia. Such of the sorts. There is probably a better way to put them, but this is off the top of my head.

There is probably more factions, but this is the big ones. Basically, you choose one of these factions, enter a specific game mode, then you get 1 ban from each faction. Then you choose the champions from your faction and then brawl it out. Whoever wins each match gives points to their respective faction. Every, say, 4 months, all players playing in the current faction get a reward. For each 4 month rotation that you have been in and won for your faction, you get a better reward than last monthly rotation. Say...

First 4 Month Win:

  • Cool In-Game Border (becomes disabled upon switching faction, re-enabled upon switching back and winning a match. Can be toggled between your Ranked border and Faction border)

Second 4 Month Win:

  • Cooler In-Game Border
  • Mystery Skin

Third 4 Month Win:

  • Even Better In-Game Border
  • Mystery Skin
  • 750 RP

Fourth 4 Month Win:

  • Veteran In-Game Border
  • Mystery Skin
  • 975 RP
  • The next in-game event/champion release is based around this faction

And so on and so forth. This would especially give players who care less about Ranked a way to have fun in the game and still feel like they are fighting for something. Plus, it's a lot more fun when you truly embrace who your champion is and what they are fighting for than just looking at a champion for their strengths and weaknesses. Of course, there would have to be some requirement for joining a faction, such as:

  • You must be Level 30
  • You must have at least 3 champions who you have at least Mastery 4 with in that faction This way you would have to have at least shown some commitment to the faction before joining. This also gives a greater meaning to the Mastery system.

Riot could focus on putting this in in Season 7 instead of adding in another complication to the game to throw things off again and continue to balance things around the current state of the game.

DELI MEATS1 votes

This sounds great!

Saianna1 votes

What about Braum? Isn't he with rest of ice queens?

Nvm~~~ I'm blind

Saphixia1 votes

the thing with the gamemode where u can only play people from your faction I HAVE LOVED THAT IDEA FOR SO LONG BUT NEVER SUGGESTED IT BECAUSE I THOUGHT DEMACIA WOULD ALWAYS WIN +why is kassadin part of shurima while malzahar is part of the void and vice versa

Meep Man1 votes

It is heavily hinted at that Kassadin was born in Shurima. He aposes the Void so I put him there.

Malzahar is part of the Void. He is from Shurima, but he is entirely consumed by the Void.

The way I determined by if they were part of the country is, if the country was attacked, would they likely defend it? If yes, then they are part of it. Some like Veigar and Zed were close, but I think Veigar would side with Bandle City over, say, Noxus.

Anyways, the main reason I like this is, since not all the factions have all the exact roles, their game plan would be drastically different from another faction. They would all have a usual type of gameplay.

Demacia Extremely diver heavy team that can take hits and give them out. Majority have a bonus against a single target when something happens. Once Mount Targon gets enough champions, they will become the most dive heavy faction, making Demacia more of a structured wombo combo faction

Noxus Lots of extremely high damage dealers. They come in and the fight ends quickly.

Ionia The most adaptable faction, not having any clear style.

Shadow Isles Extremely aggressive faction with tons of oppressive fighters. It will be hard getting a break against them.

Bandle City Extremely niche fighters that will have the most unique fights. Lots of minigames going on here. Notable AoE damage over time.

Bilgewater WOMBO COMBO! WOMBO COMBO! WHERE YOU AT! WHERE YOU AT?

Freljord Understandably the most crowd control oriented faction. Lots of slows, roots, stuns, and all the sorts.

Piltover Extremely poke oriented faction. Hard to approach and hard to find anywhere out of their range.

Zaun Good luck killing these guys, because a lot of them have decent defensive steroids OR are very hard to chase. This isn't to say by any means they are bad at combat either, because they have a lot of potential burst damage too.

Shurima Another hard to kill faction, but this time, they are more engage heavy than Zaun's disengage.

The Void Hard to build against due to their true damage and % health damage. Lots of niche mechanics as well.

KoggyStyle1 votes

maokai is from shadow isles, specifically twisted treeline.

Meep Man1 votes

Yeah, but I just found it hard to say he would fight beside Thresh or Hecarim no matter what happened. I think it would have to be the end of days for Maokai to even consider fighting beside the undead.

The Shadow Isles was hard, since they have a lot of "civil war" going on and unclear alliances.

KoggyStyle1 votes

ah mabad, just making sure ya knew XD

i also like the faction based idea :P

Sire Hippington2 votes

That actually holds true for most reagions. Freljord is split into 3 clans that doen't really like each other, zaun people don't really cooperate much with each other, syndra and zed are ionian villians, and yasuo is an exile, veigar is bandles villian, xerath and azir are nemessis and renekton freaked out and is on a rampage and so on. If we were to argue that way, few regions would actually get a real setup together atm.

WarlockLaw1 votes

Maokai wa born on the shadow isles so he belongs there.

Singed is joined with Noxus, either he should go there or Kennen should get to stay in Bandle City.

New Poppy lore doesn't place her in Demacia so she should be in Bandle City.

Brand, Bard, Soraka and Tahm Kench are all independent. Bard and Soraka are celestials, Tahm is a myth/demon like Aatrox (not saying he's darkhin) and Brand is a demon who possessed somebody that wants to burn the world.

Kassadin should be independent, to my knowledge he has no association with Shurima.

You could do a myth/legends faction with Aatrox, Bard, Kindred and the like ad those champions would otherwise remain factionless.

Sire Hippington1 votes

i really like the idea of faction modes, but it would require some work to be right. Most 'faktions' have a really poor pool, and many often incloud villians or similar that originate from that place but do not really belong to that faktion, like kassadin and shurima, or zed and ionia.

Crowe Stalker1 votes

I mean, we don't have Prizes per say, but Factions already exists.

SunLillie3 votes

My understanding of the clubs, was that the clubs would be added with the new client. That is when the social interaction will change and become easier. They are also working on an app that will help with communication between players even when they aren't playing. It is only February, so I am not expecting all of these changes for a while. As far as the honor system goes, I do honor players. I do not honor my friends at all because it doesn't count as much. I also do not honor after every match because my honor will not count as much. I have little to no champion mastery since I don't play Summoner's Rift often at all. I wish they added it to Aram and other modes. Not sure how the Hextech crafting will play out. I mostly play Aram but the video that was made about it recently made it seem as if you have to play Summoner's Rift in order to get a box. I hope they don't make us play Summoner's Rift for Hextech crafting otherwise I won't use it much, if at all. I hope this clears some things up. If I am wrong, I would like someone to correct me.

Minarde2 votes

As you asked, a few corrections.

Both clubs and the mobile app are currently in beta. Clubs are available on the PBE with new features coming sporadically. The mobile app has a hidden discussion board on NA, and invites are being sent out in waves apparently.

Riot's acknowledged that they're not satisfied with the current Honor system, but they've been too busy with other things to go back to rework it.

Hextech Crafting is currently only confirmed for full availability on SR. Keys will drop for wins in any matchmade queue for any map, but chests only drop for S-ranks on SR. Alternate maps are "being actively discussed," but it's "likely that chests and Mastery will be restricted to modes that you choose your champion in." The community originally took that statement to mean Treeline and Dominion, but then Riot announced Dom's retirement. No clue where Riot's going with it now.

SunLillie2 votes

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As you asked, a few corrections.

Both clubs and the mobile app are currently in beta. Clubs are available on the PBE with new features coming sporadically. The mobile app has a hidden discussion board on NA, and invites are being sent out in waves apparently.

Riot's acknowledged that they're not satisfied with the current Honor system, but they've been too busy with other things to go back to rework it.

Hextech Crafting is currently only confirmed for full availability on SR. Keys will drop for wins in any matchmade queue for any map, but chests only drop for S-ranks on SR. Alternate maps are "being actively discussed," but it's "likely that chests and Mastery will be restricted to modes that you choose your champion in." The community originally took that statement to mean Treeline and Dominion, but then Riot announced Dom's retirement. No clue where Riot's going with it now.

Thank you for the information. I will probably not be getting a chest then. I will have a good bit of keys though. I would like it if Domination wouldn't retire, but I look forward to new maps or game modes in the future as long as they are different from Summoner's Rift.

DeathBurst2 votes

Sadly, I feel the same way about the honor system and the mastery. Good premises but not relevant on the long term.

Iqqi2 votes

See when you have no real world project experience and got where you are because of your parents and people who did all the work for you at your previous job on these "group projects" you never learn the ability to actually think things through completely. How is Y going to effect X? What is this really going to do? See all these really obvious questions any intelligent person would think and ask. Riot doesn't. Their designers are so dumb. Look at their social module! Has to be the most hilarious thing ever. Way to make an ingame feature that performs the same function as a text message. Still doesnt create a solution to find people to play with. Idiots.

Sire Hippington2 votes

well, the new crafting is actually tied to the masterie system, as you gain stuff for getting A+ ranks if i remember correctly, and higher masterie ranks(6+7) are also tied in some way to crafting.

But for the rest, i fully agree.

Phoenix Kotori 1 votes

Champion mastery was a neat little addition to the game, but ok now what? What does it actually do/bring to the game? Not much. There's no real accomplishment or reward associated with it, it just shows that maybe you play a certain champion a lot, not necessarily that you are even good at the champ. This is more recent and they have said they have plans to improve it, but its been a while.

It will play a role in obtaining rewards for the new hextech crafting system. Each week you get 1 chest by getting an S with a champion for the first time that year or having someone else obtain an S rank on your team.

Pawn of hearts1 votes

Magma Chamber...?

FourVsFive1 votes

You should be able to report/ honor people while in game. Also mastery system would make sense if it was based on how many S/A ranks you get, cause you can play many games going 0/10/0 and get high enough mastery points.

Beerstein1 votes

Tribunal.

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