i recently saw somone in lcs do a double PD build recently so ive beeen playing graves and been getting IE and booth then 2 PD's and have been having great sucess with this i want to know the pros and cons and if ghostblade would be better then getting 2 PDs im sliver 4 atm
Vecuu2 votesI believe the double PD build was an endgame six items build where the player sold his boots for the 2nd Pantom Dancer. Keith, I think.
pleep2 votes[{quoted}](name=Godlike Beast,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=U3wIWTIU,comment-id=,timestamp=2015-03-13T02:11:17.298+0000)
i recently saw somone in lcs do a double PD build recently so ive beeen playing graves and been getting IE and booth then 2 PD's and have been having great sucess with this i want to know the pros and cons and if ghostblade would be better then getting 2 PDs im sliver 4 atm
NA LCS players don't really think things through as much as you give them credit for. These are the same people who played tank Khazix and tank Rengar when they were obviously 0 impact, and can't form a meta, or discover OP champs without copying the play of another region.
If you are looking for innovation in this game look at korean OGN.
That being said, double PD is great, the item itself is perhaps the best ADC item in the game. But it is NOT good on graves. Graves is a burst carry that relies on his abilities to do dmg. These skills scales heavily off AD and penetration, not attack speed or crit. Leave the Double PD to someone like Vayne, Sivir, Kog'maw or Twitch that do the majority of their damage with auto-attacks.
Graves is better off with Youmuu's because, in addition to some crit and AS it gives you that 20 arpen that make his ult/Q combo hit like a truck
RyzeRework1 votesNA LCS players don't really think things through as much as you give them credit for. These are the same people who played tank Khazix and tank Rengar when they were obviously 0 impact, and can't form a meta, or discover OP champs without copying the play of another region.
If you are looking for innovation in this game look at korean OGN.
That being said, double PD is great, the item itself is perhaps the best ADC item in the game. But it is NOT good on graves. Graves is a burst carry that relies on his abilities to do dmg. These skills scales heavily off AD and penetration, not attack speed or crit. Leave the Double PD to someone like Vayne, Sivir, Kog'maw or Twitch that do the majority of their damage with auto-attacks.
Graves is better off with Youmuu's because, in addition to some crit and AS it gives you that 20 arpen that make his ult/Q combo hit like a truck
i hate to admit it but i kinda sorta watched allot of videos on graves and i guess im not really good with him and dont understand his whole bursting everytime i use q r up close or just to kill somone with r it seems like im not doing much with him
pleep1 votes[{quoted}](name=Godlike Beast,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=U3wIWTIU,comment-id=00030000,timestamp=2015-03-13T03:20:06.666+0000)
i hate to admit it but i kinda sorta watched allot of videos on graves and i guess im not really good with him and dont understand his whole bursting everytime i use q r up close or just to kill somone with r it seems like im not doing much with him
It actually takes some getting used to. Make sure your smartcasting your abilities so you can Auto and then Q + R at exactly the same time. At lvl 6 this combo does a hilarious amount of damage ( around 50% of the enemy adcs hp) If u are building correctly.
Basically Any sort of BF sword item.
BluePolarizer1 votesThe real way to play is 2x IE.
KnivingDude1 votesIt's because the crit chance with Phantom Dancers stack and make a be-a-utiful number. Yomuu's only becomes better than 2 PT when you use the active - and it's becomes way better if you know when to use it.
Try both builds. Take Chances. Make Mistakes. Get Messy. It's mostly about the champion and the personal preference.
Skia Asteri1 votesDouble PD is better at 6 items. Ghostblade is a great mid game item. Also ignore Pleep about it not being good on Graves. AA focused builds are the best build in terms of damage output for every ADC at six items, no exceptions. Crits are just that brokenly OP.