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Zilean Got more nerfs than buffs

Defendi·2/25/2015, 10:45:19 PM·6 votes·2,110 views

They nerfed this Range and Damage and Utility in exchange for what.

Time Bomb got hit hard. Its range was lowered, damage lowered. You cant even place a bomb on the enemy of your choice anymore. It may or may not attach to the opponent of your choice--it could go in for their support or tank who knows. The mana cost was never an issue . Who spamm spells early on seeing its a good way to go oom sooner than later. And with Rewind CD's on him where rarely an issue. It sounds greatest for checking a bush now.

One of Zileans greatest strengthens was having his Ulti up often. Now its at a set and fixed time. Nerf.

Time Wraps duration and range got nerfed.
A 99% slow that only last 2.5s compared to the last 5.5 s the debuffed used to last on enemies and friends. It was a sure gank when landed on an enemy and with Rewind I believe it was possible to practically keep your opponent in a constant slow if you where a polished Zilean player.

Even his attack range got nerfed. Unbelievable. The only real buff I saw was the stun attached to bombs along side the denotation timer. Other than that I hate to say it but I am not impressed with this.

5 Comments

Toru Itai2/25/2015, 10:50:16 PM1 votes

we're talking about LoL right? yeah? ok.

DUH!

xSay2/25/2015, 11:19:13 PM1 votes

I mained Zilean mid in Season 3 and most of Season 4. He was one of the champions that helped me get out of silver and into gold 1. I am reserving judgment until I play him but after reading the changes it doesn't look good. Nerf ap ratio to q AND make it harder to land, but it now has a stun if two are landed and longer range. This is definitely a nerf to his mid laning ability.. possibly a buff to his supporting since he will be able to zone with it I am guessing.

I always built him with max cdr and I think it put his ult on a 28-32 (somewhere around there) second cd.. with max cdr it should now be 36 seconds I believe, which isn't a HUGE deal, but still a nerf to cdr/ap Zil.

No clue if his E is a buff or nerf yet. 99% bonus speed to an ally seems pretty awesome if it is true. However it was possibly to perma chain the slows with old Zil and now it will not longer be possible.

qetzel2/25/2015, 11:45:51 PM1 votes

The attack range nerf is justified - 600 attack range is incredibly high...

Apparantly there is a three second time difference between the old minimum coolddown ultimate at max rank with 40% CDR and the new. You are wrong about the range of the timebomb. It was increased by 200 range, and it has an effective higher range due to the pick-up radius. Would you say that a 99% slow for five seconds is worse than a 55% slow for 5.5 seconds? It depends on the situation. This is a nerf at some points, a buff at others (I would call it a buff for ganking because ganks are normally over in a few seconds anyway. Possibly a nerf to teamfights though).

Overall, I would call this a buff.

ChoNuff2/26/2015, 4:02:42 AM1 votes

Problem with Zilean now is you cannot on demand burst with a bomb double up. Just is not gonna happen unless you get a slow off first. Maybe then. Not the same Zilean at all. Might be fun for people who do not know how good the old one could be. He was stick and move guy. Now he is stick and might miss guy.

BeatzBoyFTW2/26/2015, 4:17:04 AM1 votes

My thoughts about the new Zilean:

the increased attack frame works quite well in conjunction with his nerfed range. Doesn't feel clunky as clunky as Akali's who tries to Q-aa.
Q is actually a lot better than the old one. I can now check bushes with it, and can toss onto enemy's head without worry, unlike the old one where most of the time I risked my own protection and became an open target.
I guess I could get used to the new fixed ult cd. I preferred the old one where I can spam W lots T.T
Dude. It's 99% slow. Even Talon cries and begs for buffs.