Eve feels to weak

Defendi··6 votes·1,491 views

I remember when she first got her rework she was a monster. Then nerf after nerf. Hate spikes speed and damage--lowered. Her ultis damage got nerfed, so did the shield and so did the type of damage it did upon impact was nerfed.
I cannot think of a single thing that was not touched and toned down. Now I no longer see her. And when I do play her I simply do not feel like a threat or the potential to snowball. She dose not have the fastest jungle clear time and with no CC her ganks often fall flat. She is certainly no duelist. Eve needs buffs. Shes below average.

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Bresn4 votes

She is too weak. Unable to jg in the old one and she got +5 armor for new one.

Dumped like Yorrick

360D3GR3SS2 votes

Yorick CAN still be pretty beast though. Eve is just meh pretty much everywhere except for her soft CC engage granting her a potentially massive shield.

Ben1192 votes

The problem with Evenlyn is that she impacts the game simply by being in the game, without doing anything. She influences you to buy pinks because no other kinds of wards detect her. This problem is part of her kit and taking it away would be horrible for her. However her stealth mechanic could be changed.

I think that changing the way her stealth works at early levels (1-6) to not be undetectable to wards you BUY, but still invisible to trinket wards, until after 6 or even 11 and that would allow some nice buffs to her kit since she will have more counterplay.

My thinking is that her passive could be changed so she has different "levels" of stealthiness as she levels up eg. 1-5: only invisible to trinket wards, Fully visible to champions, green/pink wards and minions 6-10: invisible to normal vision wards, fully visible to champions and minions and pink wards 11-16: invisible to normal vision wards, 75% detection range for champs and minions 16-18: 75% detection range for pink wards, champs, and minions

This could allow for significant buffs to her early game as there will be significantly more counterplay to the champion because she isn't invisible to wards that you buy until later. This would also come with some significant sustain or damage buffs to compensate.

Leblancs Boob1 votes

I agree 100%. People fail to realize that theres a reason why Eve sucks. Her passive is just too strong and Evelynn just being MIA in a game forces every single lane to play passively unless they're shrouded on all sides by pink wards. Nerf her passive and only then can we give her significant buffs in other areas.

Raja Chachki1 votes

I could see this happening, but even after she would need buffs, and this would make her a hyper carry, no kill potential early, but a (hopefully) monster late game. I feel she needs early game buffs as well, considering she "falls off"(she was never even on) and when roams happen she loses a lot of use from her stealth.

360D3GR3SS1 votes

Her ultimate is underwhelming her Q is underwhelming. Remove or lower the shield on her ultimate and make it a root for X seconds. OR make her Q root for a short duration after 5-6 hits.

Skia Asteri1 votes

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Her ultimate is underwhelming her Q is underwhelming. Remove or lower the shield on her ultimate and make it a root for X seconds. OR make her Q root for a short duration after 5-6 hits.

Wut? Removing the shield would make building any damage impossible. It would be better to change how it works so that she can survive better with high damage builds.

360D3GR3SS1 votes

Well I did say remove OR lower. If the shield was removed than I imagine the suggested root time and base damage of her ultimate would go up drastically... But since her shield makes her unique I do agree that Perhaps just lowering the shield slightly and giving her a root would be better for her identity.

Defendi1 votes

It was strange because her ulti was fine when it was actually able to kill people upon impact. I dont know why they changed that. They gave her a rework because she was unplayable before--rework her to where she was strong--then nerf her an utterly undesirable place with no signs of a buff anytime soon.

This all sucks because I liked her.

Q,Q

Done251 votes

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It was strange because her ulti was fine when it was actually able to kill people upon impact. I dont know why they changed that. They gave her a rework because she was unplayable before--rework her to where she was strong--then nerf her an utterly undesirable place with no signs of a buff anytime soon.

This all sucks because I liked her.

Q,Q

Because people were building DFG and 100~0 ing people from out of stealth.

Rebonack1 votes

Eve needs another remake.

Seriously.

lDontLiftIcarry1 votes

eve's done. I moved on. rework was shit. Nerfs were shit.

I never wanted a rework tbh. I knew she'd get gutted and be even weaker than pre rework. Just like every other "Rework" riot has done.

Rebonack1 votes

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eve's done. I moved on. rework was shit. Nerfs were shit.

I never wanted a rework tbh. I knew she'd get gutted and be even weaker than pre rework. Just like every other "Rework" riot has done.

Hey now.

New Karma is WAY better than old Karma in terms of mechanical strength, how different she is notwithstanding.

lDontLiftIcarry1 votes

lmfao "mechanical strength" you mean she's got a broken passive+q burst now and high as fuck base damage now? Great. Just what I wanted. Another Q bot. she's just a weaker lux after her rework. Her old kit was fun and had what most champions past 2009 lack. Character and depth.(mostly depth)

Karma was possibely the most fun champion/hero I'd ever played in any moba outside of j4 and walrus punchuuu from dota/dota 2 and Loki from Smite and that assassin from Gigantic.

Yoella1 votes

In my last two games I've played against 2 Evelyn's. One of them never connected, and the other was trying pretty hard but got repeatedly stomped on in fights. She needs buffs.

Mahnigguh1 votes

RIOT RUINED EVE NUFF SAID :( i used to melt face...can still melt face if i go mid or top...but if you lane with her and you go missing then enemy team pings everywhere so much more gratifying to hop into a bush and then w towards the enemy spamming pure hate all over the place. RIP EVEitem 3070

Drunk Rummate1 votes

Is the title a metaphor? You missed the other half.

Eve feels to weak, as watermelon tastes to sweet

Eve feels to strong, as complex is design to Pong.

There, I even made it rhyme for you.

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