You can complain about Vayne but...

SleepyWolfie·11/14/2016, 6:00:35 PM·41 votes·2,730 views

Complain anything you want about Vayne. She is definitely op. And i hope she gets nerfed immediately.

But I do not tolerate the people who say the following:

"ADC is an easy role, cause you only right click."

I wont say why, unless you ask, then I will say my opinion.

50 Comments

Death by Glamour11/14/2016, 6:16:25 PM11 votes

It's a forgiving role.

After all you have a class dedicated to being your bitch

Chamuel8511/14/2016, 6:02:41 PM8 votes

yeah I don't like people boiling down the ADC role so simply. It's like saying "omg assassins are so easy because you just jump in and qwer = people dead." Knowing when to go in where to stay safe. Maximizing your impact is pretty critical .

WiegrafOfValor11/14/2016, 7:22:07 PM5 votes

ADC is easy because they are Riot's lapdog..

  • If TANKS can kill them, although they are suppose to, since you have 20 AR ( reducing nothing from their base skill damage ) and they have 400 AR, and you have less than 1k HP and they have 3~4K, ADC mains complain until riot gives them BS like that item 3036 and item 3153

  • If Assassins can kill ADC, since it's their job to kill the carries, Riot reworks them and creates high AD items that gives defensive capabilities like item 3046 , item 3812 , item 3156 , item 3139

  • You have a player 24-7 looking after you, setting up your kills, dying for you, saving you from ganks, taking skill-shots for you, letting you farm and pick up gold as much as you want.

  • You have peel, CC, you have masteries and items that block % damage you suppose to take and directs to your support, you have heals 24-7. Since your team gives you everything they have..

WOW IMAGINE IF YOU HAD TO DO ALL THAT BY YOURSELF..

Vayne - adc to hard bro.. Rammus - ok

Chief Mayonnaise11/14/2016, 11:13:34 PM4 votes

ADC is easy in some aspects and hard in others

Mechanically, they are difficult,.

Strategically, they make like 2 or 3 choices building items and that's it.

I feel that most people say that it's easy because you have a support, but forget that your lane opponent also has a support.

IceKingChernobog11/15/2016, 1:52:15 AM4 votes

ADC is honestly one of the most mechanically challenging role for many reasons. To be considered a decent ADC you have to *Last hit Minions(The average of Cs per minute is like 10-12) *Learn to position in team fights(An adc who can't position properly is a dead adc) *Learn to Kite(I'm still struggling with this) You're also the most vulnerable(This is debatable) role in the game who has to rely on the team to set up plays for you.

So no adcs do other things than just "right clicking"

dominusx11/14/2016, 9:46:53 PM4 votes

rightclicks you to death -> Vayne Caitlyn Twitch Jinx Kalista Tristana KogMaw Sivir Has to use abilites on top of rightclicking you --> Ashe Jhin Draven(draven also has to jugge axes)MissFortune Lucian Quinn Varus
Wooo hard as fuck role right? half the champs require only mb2 to dish out enormous dps. While also shredding everyone lifestealing having range and having 1 person whose work is to peel for them. hard as fuck..yeh

Not Too Serious11/14/2016, 11:39:47 PM4 votes

Yeah, I get you. I don't really play much ADC, but that's because I suck at it, honestly lol. From what I've seen however, bot lane is extremely snowbally or something atm. Maybe it's just us Silver scrubs, but either the enemy adc is completely dominating yours, or yours is completely overpowering theirs. Can't say for sure, again, don't play the role, but that's what I've observed. As far as Vayne goes, before I was like "ehhh.." but seeing her win/rate and play rate now, I think it can definitely be tuned down.

Regardless, I don't have a problem with the class, I think most people just get salty when their favored types of champions in other roles (melee top laners, mage mid laners, tank junglers, etc.) can fall out of favor, and yet "marksmen" is always the ADC regardless, and sometimes goes to other lanes too. Just a thought, I'm not sure, but yeah, hope they tune Vayne down a bit. Not gut, after all, who doesn't like seeing a bad Vayne and their shenanigans, but you know. <w>'

TyroneWatermelon11/14/2016, 8:53:14 PM2 votes

But it's true.

Papa Slothy11/14/2016, 6:52:11 PM2 votes

that's like saying "mid lane is an easy role, all you do is press a few buttons" or "jungle is easy, all you do is right click monsters"

still gonna keep calling adc a point and click adventure :^)

BIackfox11/15/2016, 4:36:11 AM1 votes

I hope they don't nerf vayne

HazyCloud711/14/2016, 9:32:34 PM1 votes

Don't tolerate it then? Not entirely sure why it required an entire thread to say that.

Saianna11/14/2016, 10:55:15 PM1 votes

If there is NO CC on the other side, then ADC is indeed easy as hell.

If other side has shitton of CC and Alistar on top, then ADC becomes one of the hardest role to play as.

xelaker11/15/2016, 2:05:07 AM1 votes

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Complain anything you want about Vayne. She is definitely op. And i hope she gets nerfed immediately.

But I do not tolerate the people who say the following:

&quot;ADC is an easy role, cause you only right click.&quot;

I wont say why, unless you ask, then I will say my opinion.

positioning is life mang.

The Deckowner11/15/2016, 2:18:37 AM1 votes

That statement's opposite is true.

ADC require good mechanic but it requires no decision making(assuming there is voice com within the team)

Poop Jelly11/15/2016, 3:24:47 AM1 votes

Lol I thought it was gonna follow up with a "...Graves can't have a cigar?"

You're right. Vayne's strong right now, but I just don't understand the hateful spite toward her because shes' actually really complex to play right (Prob less difficult now that she's in a strong spot.) But earlier in the season, Vayne was actually balance and she had to fight for survival in laning phase in order to maybe becoming useful later into the game. Just need some number nerfs and she'll be fine again. I want BOTRK Vayne back though. IE Vayne is boring.