This seems like a buff to support and jungle Karma and a nerf to mid and top Karma, her enhanced tether no longer gives her that clutch sustain for dueling and her enhanced shield no longer has the AOE damage. Her abilities seem more team focused.
Is this what it's supposed to be? Is there some way we could possibly find middle ground?
Not saying I'm protesting the changes but just voicing my thoughs.
disregardable1 votesAll damage dealt to target heals Karma for 20% of the damage dealt
Just tether before using Q.
The shield is a bit of a nerf, but at least its CD will be significantly lower. I'd call it more of a change than a nerf.
Hawnda1 votesYou hit on the exact points I'm concerned for: RW clutch and RE damage. I'm really hoping these changes don't go through. They'll be killing my Karma for the 2nd time.
Gapybo1 votesCan't clear waves fast anymore OR duel and actually survive and land a kill anymore.
Erockandroll1 votesThis seems like a buff to support and jungle Karma and a nerf to mid and top Karma, her enhanced tether no longer gives her that clutch sustain for dueling and her enhanced shield no longer has the AOE damage. Her abilities seem more team focused.
Is this what it's supposed to be? Is there some way we could possibly find middle ground?
Not saying I'm protesting the changes but just voicing my thoughs.
You hit the nail on the Head assuming that these changes are more team focused, which is why Riot is looking at them and I highly doubt they will back down from this.
That being said, I disagree that this will kill her solo lane presence.
Can't clear waves fast anymore OR duel and actually survive and land a kill anymore.
I always felt like Karma was more of a poke/kiting mage. considering you have nice fat slow on your low cooldown Q that is unchanged. And I highly doubt that her ult E was her secret to wave clear, considering at max ult it barely does more damage than her Q. And you really wouldn't use it for that reason anyway.
sungold2 votesYou have to admit that with these karma changes she deals less damage. In the live version the RW and Q combo makes you survive in a solo lane when the enemy is trying to go too deep and trying to kill you, but now the PBE version the combo is different, she wont not heal enough to survive i tried in the PBE, and her shield heath reduction is not that much but it kinda make a difference since she no longer has a good heal to use if you're in danger.
I have agree with Raleko (NA) her change is more focused on the support utility than on her damage. now the only damage skill in team fights is her Q. karma can throw her R+Q of course it has a good range, but if you spam Q the distance is enough for any champion to get into karma. it feals almost the same exept that you might not survive in team fights compared to the live server karma.
One more thing, i don't understand why are they taking that unique mechanic from her kit. her R+E is what really makes karma "karma" and not "a completely new champion" that they created.
I would try karma tank supp, that utility buff it's really good with the utility support build and it's actually really good cuz she can protect her ad and her team very well with this she will be a great support, kinda weak early game but strong late game.
Axests1 votesif anything the stronger shield instead of that stupid small amount of damage from mantra shield will buff her solo lane.
