Gragas as a Bralwer

Storren··1 votes·716 views

Today I wanted to present an issue that I still continuously see, when he is picked. The idea of Gragas was supposed to be a brawler type champion, as in Riots words told the community. When he was first released riot had issues with Gragas being able to go middle, safely clear creeps with relative ease and being able to burst people from full health to nil. Then the update happened that was supposed to fix this problem but in today's current state of the game I still see him picked middle or top, build full damage and with one full rotation of spells, sometimes without the ultimate, kill people and clear waves with just barrel. My question to you is, will this playstyle of Gragas get fixed or is he supposed to be a burst type mage? To me, if he is supposed to be this brawler, he'd shouldn't be able to burst people from full to nil with just Morello's and Doran's ring and be able to clear waves with relative ease. I just want to know what the future holds for "Burst Gragas" and it may not be the champions fault maybe it is items or masteries but I just want the integrity of the champion to be intact

This post is not saying that Gragas is op or needs a nerf, this post is relating to the initial changes that happened to Gragas so so long ago. If he is supposed this brawler then why can he can go full ap and succeed really well. Remember when Fizz and Ekko built full tank and succeeded really well as these brawlers? Yes they was strong and needed tweaks but still it's saying that it's not ok for them to do that and excel while Gragas can be a mage excel or be a tank and excel. Just if Gragas is supposed to be a brawler, then why excel really well as a range nuker.

I am just more concerned that the initial changes never really solved the problem in the first place. I love diversity because it creates a healthy champion

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Wet Dryman1 votes

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Storren1 votes

I guess I didn't see the E W combo as Brawler but that does make sense, I was only asking because I had a 50 min game where everyone was full build and myself included had MR and he just q R back in to the q and blew up like 3 people. Just figured if you want a brawler shouldn't he only excel mostly at the tank role and not the mage assassin role? Mean its ok that he can play that way but to me if he is this brawler which sounds like a tank that means he should be Rated like S or A status and if you do go mage youd preform at about a B status if that makes sense. That's why when I look at I feel he shouldn't excel that hard as a mage with tank stats you understand what I am saying? This post isn't only for ragas, its for any tank really like Zac or Sej. Just to me if you are meant to be a tank you should be exceptionally good at tanking right? Then if you try to go glass cannon build you should be good enough to do it alright but not better than champs that were designed for it so that way you have diversity but not overall dominance. That is what I cant understand why he can do it so well and that's what I cant understand so if light would be casted upon that so I could understand it that would be nice so I can have a more rounded mindset.

Wet Dryman1 votes

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Storren1 votes

So by what you are saying below that tank and Bruiser are pretty much the same thing period therefore bruiser is tank? "Tank Gragas: engages with his ER and then if they don't kill him by this time constantly uses his CC to foil enemies plan. Bruiser Gragas: basically the same thing that tank Gragas does but he is more likely to die in the process but bring overall more pain."

Storren1 votes

wouldn't that mean they shouldn't really do damage, or tanks should do more damage then? Just the whole bruiser thing is ackward

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