Sivir...wow...

EvilRabbitt··4 votes·1,179 views

Yes, I just did a Bot game (teaching someone who is almost a week in) and an ARAM but... she has some serious early game/mid game burst. =D I like it.

I know she is an ADC (duh), but can she mid? Because most midlaners rely on one skill specifically in their kit to do burst, and her spell shield will negate that (Ahri Charm, Zed Deathmark, Fizz trollpoll). Theoretically, can she? Also, what should I build? item 3142 is fantastic so far- gives Apen on her Q, which I think I should max first. Rest, idk?

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Bresn3 votes

Don't make your title make so misleading... I thought you were going on some kind of crazy rant about Sivir.

EvilRabbitt2 votes

I mentioned serious burst, hence the wow. It was breathtaking, and still is. I promise its not misleading. If I was gonna rant, I woulda added something like "wtf" or "wth". =)

PutThe3dgeD0wn2 votes

I've watched at least one game with Sivir mid. It.. seems like a riskier idea. But then again I play AP Varus in mid lane and he has less mobility than Sivir, and no spellshield.

I think it is possible to get away with, but the question is how you would really fit into the team comp thanks to what the current meta is like. As far as builds, the match I spectated had the mid Sivir using Guinsoo's Rageblade. At first the Ability Power seems like a waste, but her Q actually scales from both AD and AP and the passive would be great for risky trades if you knew what you're doing. Versus Youmuu's... typically, that isn't thought of as an ADC item. The thing about Sivir is that once she has her Ult, her W becomes a steroid, so the active might be redundant. But I could be wrong, it might actually have good synergy with her kit in that way.

If it works for you and there aren't really any better items, keep using it. Just make sure that you're not wasting an item slot and could be using something better.

Bottom line, though... Sivir Mid might be something that takes a lot of practice and skill to get to work. I think it's possibly a holdover from when the meta was older. Going even further back, Ashe Mid was evidently a thing once upon a time... so who knows.

EvilRabbitt2 votes

Youmuu's- not for the active use, or for the stats really. For the 20+ Armor pen (more than black cleaver, and cheaper). It boosts her Boomerang Blade because of that alone, as well as her dueling potential. Also, I may test her mid soon- I saw a Caitlyn pull mid....much more terrifying than Fizz or Zed. She just sat at her max range and shot me dead...If I engaged, she E'd back, if I disengaged, she Q'd me down some more. =/ Terror. Anyway, what is a good theoretical build for Sivir? One focused on maximizing her Boomerang Blade. (her W is an auto attack reset, thats why I don't focus on it. very linear.)

Narasimha1 votes

If its just for the armor pen, then you might as well invest in a Black Cleaver. Otherwise you're making the item into a gold sink.

USG Morta2 votes

if you are looking for a build to max her burst, i'd try the cdr sivir build. you swap mercs for ionian boots of lucidity and rush and essence reaver for the mana sustain for spamability. grab a youmuus and 35% cdr (or 40 with the right masteries) after that just grab ie and shiv and your a monster duelist and pusher. last item always situational but i recommend a banshees or a merc scimitar

KMannnnn11 votes

Most ADCs can actually go midlane fairly easily, because they'll either outrange their opponent or be able to dodge skillshots from safety.

Curse ran double ADC comps a handful of times toward the end of Summer LCS and won most of the times they used them.

Brenticus121 votes

Most ADCs can play mid anyway... Sivir is one of the ADCs I can do alright as (ADC is my least played role) and I love the burst that comes from a well-aimed Q. Her spell shield negates a number of the popular meta supports and mid laners and her wave clear is like no other.

She's fun and as long as you get good at her, I'm sure you can play her mid effectively especially with her spell shield (Although you have to be good at judging when to use it. She gets mana drained easily so early game might be a problem. Late game mana problems might not be as bad as when you play her ADC since you'll pribably pick up essence reaver). Also, she's barely ever picked or banned, so have fun trolling people with spell shield in lower elo (If you are)

EvilRabbitt1 votes

I really like spell shield as my second pick. Goes down to a 10 second cd at rank 5, 6 seconds at max cdr. Which I usually get to anyway. =D

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