I think the new jungle is too hard for certain champions..

MrBigstuph1645·12/7/2014, 10:15:40 PM·1 votes·2,433 views

I may only be level 27, but I used to be good in the Season 4 Jungle. Keyphrase: "used to". There are plenty of junglers right now that do well, specifically ones that have a good amount of built-in sustain (WarwickWarwick ban, anyone?). The downside of this is that jungle champions with little or no sustain, like NocturneNocturne and RengarRengar , are struggling too much in this new jungle. Yes, Nocturne Nocturne's passive has some sustain and Rengar Rengar's W can heal him with a full Resource bar. However, I feel that this is not enough. I usually can only clear three camps at most as Nocturne Nocturne before I NEED to back, and I can really only do two camps as Rengar Rengar. In my opinion, the monsters hit way too hard at level 1, and even the Health/Mana regen properties of the item 1039 Hunter's Machete isn't enough to mitigate this problem. I think that the monsters should be toned down in difficulty, even if it's just a little bit.

A good example, I recently played a game as Nocturne Nocturne and the enemy Jungler was MasterYi Master Yi. When he emerged from the jungle for the first time to gank, MasterYi Master Yi was already Level 6, and I was still level 4 or 5. Sure I had the item 3713 Ranger's Trailblazer to help sustain me once I went back, but it didn't help me keep up with MasterYi Master Yi in terms of farming. I feel this is an issue that needs to be looked into, if it's not already.

3 Comments

Dieox12/7/2014, 10:29:47 PM1 votes

I like the current Jungle the way it is. I do feel that certain Jungle items need a bit of reworking. Not every champion should be able to jungle, much like not every champion is meant to support or be a tank a bunch of damage.

Pew12/7/2014, 10:33:24 PM1 votes

New jungle is in a great place. You literally can jungle as every champion if you really wanted now. It may be harder for some but even twisted fate can jungle now. It was just played by a lcs team even.

Wise Squirrel12/7/2014, 10:56:05 PM1 votes

The jungle is closer to the power level of the earlier seasons like season 1 and season 2.

In my opinion (As well as that of many other players who played in the first season), the hard to clear jungle is good and feels good because it is no longer a gold bank where you just stomp on weak monsters to squeeze out whatever gold you can.

The gold gate in season 4 was how much gold the entire jungle could give you. Now that season 5 has monsters that are difficult to sustain through, the entire jungle now gives overall more gold because it is the monsters which "gate" or limit the gold a jungler can earn.

This new jungle also allows junglers without impressive assassination skills, but instead good sustain to shine (So assassins like Rengar and Lee Sin are not always the go to champion).

I think assassins should have a really hard time farming the jungle, just the same as autoattack champions with poor gank kits should have a hard time getting a kill.

New jungle is in a good place, though I would prefer MORE MONSTERS TO KILL :D