Rakan shows how riot view supports in league

ACENOX··2 votes·1,085 views

you're a support--------------> you shield, heal, cc and that's it

except that this time they brought mobility for our assassin mains like rakan designers said

you really have no idea on how to make an original support? i suggest you look at the past with Bard Thresh TahmKench Taric

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Oleandervine9 votes

To date, Rakan is the ONLY super squishy, highly mobile support. He's pretty damn unique.

Choten1 votes

Lulu Janna Bard Taliyah Karma Hello.

Brain Errör 4042 votes

Why do you have Taliyah in there? Lmfao. Also, you consider those MOBILE supports? Uh....

Choten1 votes

Before the new client, taliyah had the role: mage and secondary: support which makes sense if you take the time to actually think of her kit

Variks the Loyal1 votes

Mage/Support champion? Those tags are no longer valid, Riot revamped the class system long ago. Taliyah is a Disruptor, which means she creates threatening zones of control to prevent enemies from crossing, lest they fall victim to high crowd control or high damage.

Some Supports do this, but they're typically AP-carry like; Zilean and Zyra are Disruptors. And some are not Supports. Anivia, Heimerdinger, and Orianna are other Disruptors played as mid-lane Mages, like Taliyah is.

Moreover, Taliyah is not nearly as mobile as Rakan.

Choten1 votes

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Mage/Support champion? Those tags are no longer valid, Riot revamped the class system long ago.

This has been since she was released until the new client came out what are you talking about. How far back is "long ago" to you? Of course it's still valid. She's the same champ unreworked. Go load up the legacy client and check for yourself. And Orianna and Zyra are ALSO Primary Mage/Secondary Support.

How can you just make up a term like "Disruptor" and act as if that's always been the term. Taliyah is a Mage that can is also labelled as a support that has increased move speed near walls and on worked ground, and a semi-global ultimate.

And when did Zilean become an AP carry?

Variks the Loyal1 votes

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/3A5uuBw7-champion-subclass-list

http://na.leagueoflegends.com/en/news/game-updates/gameplay/dev-blog-classes-subclasses

I was wrong about Zilean (They say he's an Enchanter), but you don't seem to have learned about Riot's new class system.

Choten1 votes

As much as I hate what's going on with these articles, can't argue with the sources since they're more recent, but 11 months ago and 1 year ago? Not sure if they're sticking with this or they scrapped it.

Variks the Loyal1 votes

They've referenced it as recently as the Tank reworks (Refering to Maokai as a Warden and Sejuani and Zac as Vanguards, and how all Vanguards typically feel the same and they want to make Sej and Zac feel more unique), so it's certainly still their direction.

It's a good system that allows you to understand what a champion is about before seeing their kit. Moreover, the champions within those roles have a lot of freedom since the subclasses can encompass a wide variety of playstyles and kits.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

None of them has a dash....

Oleandervine1 votes

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Lulu Janna Bard Taliyah Karma Hello.

A speed boost isn't classified as mobility most people understand it. Mobility is generally dashes and blinks, similar to what Ahri Fizz Rengar Yasuo Vayne Leblanc have. Rakan is completely unique in that he's the first squishy support that is mobile.

Choten2 votes

I disagree, champs like Taliyah and Rek'sai are called mobile because they can travel the map in a second. Bard whole kit is mobility. etc If you mean the first squishy support with dashes, I'll give you that but not definitely not the first highly mobile support.

Lauchmelder5 votes

What exactly is wrong with having a flashy support like Rakan?

Even if Rakan would have Azir/Ryze level winrate I would play him over someone like Janna for example. At least his kit is engaging, I don't want to end up as a pure disengage and heal/shield bot.

DeathBurst1 votes

And I hope a lot of Mid/Top main think like you and will try to play support a bit more (instead of whining against auto-fill).

Lauchmelder1 votes

Well, people whining about autofill are worse than their elo imo. A gold 5 complaining about autofill doesn't deserve gold 5.

DeathBurst1 votes

Why Gold5 in particular? x) That seems oddly specific.

Lauchmelder1 votes

I've been gold 5 for 2 seasons because I was too lazy to grind any higher.

That and I can see where some diamonds are coming from when they say that they can't play the role as well as mains so I went for something fairly low elo.

This doesn't exist in low elo because all you need to know down here is "don't feed" and "farm up while also doing objectives". Top level play has a much deeper micro play than we plebs need to keep our ranks.

SEKAI3 votes

You call Thresh original?

Thresh is just a chimera, a Frankenstein's monster, an abomination created by putting many strong supports and other existing champs into a blender and conveniently leave out a great deal amount of risks and weaknesses those "bases" of which they made this champ from have. And oh who's Thresh lore-wise you might ask? Hop on deviant art or any online art sharing site and locate any gothic wraith with chains OC or whatever, and that's our Thresh.

Personally I'd choose Rakan any day, at least he has a defined strength and weaknesses and actually having a character and an identity. The same can't be said for our faceless void called Thresh who's sole reason to exist was that some designer wanted to make "the ultimate support", who also think "identity and originality? What is that shit?"

/opinion

Phelas1 votes

Well thats your opinion.

YoungSirJ0ey1 votes

Taric isn't original. He heals, shields, CCs and that's it. He just also gets to duplicate his abilities on another ally.

SEKAI3 votes

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Taric isn't original. He heals, shields, CCs and that's it. He just also gets to duplicate his abilities on another ally.

That last part is what makes him original, because only he does that in League.

YoungSirJ0ey1 votes

And only Rakan has a teamwide charm and a dash so shit it's barely better than distance neutral.

SEKAI1 votes

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And only Rakan has a teamwide charm and a dash so shit it's barely better than distance neutral.

Well I guess Rakan's originality lies in having 3 forms of mobility, and then not all that much else besides his rather situational CCs lol. He's gonna be so team-dependent, extremely so, imo. Honestly I'm interested to see how this guy plays out.

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