We nerfed Kassadin cause unparalleled mobility equipped with high damage

LeviathanN7·Mar 13, 2015·86 votes·4,315 views

Meanwhile(cough cough)...

60 Comments

insaiyanbaccaMar 13, 201532 votes

yup i legit had a nidalee complain about my 1 second cd ult that took me till lvl 16 to get when she has what a 2 second one that has possibly longer range if she can land her chunking spears?

Byakuya KuchikiMar 13, 20152 votes

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yup i legit had a nidalee complain about my 1 second cd ult that took me till lvl 16 to get when she has what a 2 second one that has possibly longer range if she can land her chunking spears?

1 second cd ult?

ElphrihaimMar 13, 201513 votes

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1 second cd ult?

Kassadin's Riftwalk, with max CDR and at level 16+: 2 * 0.6 = 1.2 Nidalee's Pounce, with max CDR: 5 * 0.6 = 3

Some hyperbole, but not a lot

(However, let it be noted that Kassadin does not usually have the luxury of 40% CDR.)

insaiyanbaccaMar 13, 201535 votes

also the fact that nid's costs no mana

TonyTonyMordecaiMar 14, 20152 votes

Which is BS since Kass has to use like 1000 mana each time

PatMcGroynMar 15, 20151 votes

I think they need to severely reduce the mana stack considering how much range they took from his Riftwalk. It seems like such a hugely disproportionate nerf.

PatMcGroynMar 15, 20151 votes

With Scaling CDR blues + Lucidity Boots, you can easily hit that mark late game. That's 35% CDR with masteries at lvl 18 (can reach cap with Blue Buff). I think it's worth, CDR is such a strong stat on Kass.

Lucidity Boots/ RoA/ Hourglass/ Lich Bane/ Deathcap/ Void Staff

ElphrihaimMar 15, 20151 votes

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With Scaling CDR blues + Lucidity Boots, you can easily hit that mark late game. That's 35% CDR with masteries at lvl 18 (can reach cap with Blue Buff). I think it's worth, CDR is such a strong stat on Kass.

Lucidity Boots/ RoA/ Hourglass/ Lich Bane/ Deathcap/ Void Staff

Most people elect for Sorcs on Kassadin. :M

I completely agree with you that CDR is really good on Kassadin, but I think the most recent buffs actually made it less attractive

I mean, it is pretty rare to actually want to riftwalk every 2 seconds already.

PatMcGroynMar 16, 20151 votes

Sorcs are good for a midgame spike, but the CDR scales better.

Knight SoIaire Mar 15, 20151 votes

and he doesnt have the luxury of mana

AaravosMar 13, 201529 votes

Meanwhile Zed Kalista LeeSin

YOU BEEN WARNEDMar 14, 20154 votes

remove l00 sang pls, he's over rated on boards.

JunkοMar 14, 20153 votes

Eh Zed and Lee Sin can only use their mobility spell twice, still more than most champions, but they really can't keep up with Riven, LB, Nidalee, Kassadin, etc..

UPfreelyMar 14, 201523 votes

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Kitten of EvilMar 15, 20152 votes

Technically her mobility is unparalleled... As in, nobody can match her slowness!

UdoIkOSc4uMar 13, 201522 votes

LeeSin or downvote

The5lackerMar 13, 20152 votes

I don't see a problem with this. LeeSin

Ariel the CruelMar 14, 201514 votes

Lissandra Are we seeing the same thing?

DeusVultMar 14, 20152 votes

obviously not, hes LeeSin

RasCaelestisMar 14, 20157 votes

Lissandra is also blind. This was stated by a Rioter, though I don't remember where I read it. There are rumours that it was caused by one of the Ursine (Volibear's people), but we have no details beyond that.

Yuki AkumaMar 14, 201519 votes

Ashe Ashe Ashe Ashe Ashe Ashe

Oh wait you were showing off characters that are really mobile, woops.

Ariel the CruelMar 14, 201514 votes

Don't worry. Ashe's lack of mobility is compensated by her being the ultimate kiter.

Meanwhile in Riot HQ: An undead spear chucker is quietly hidden in a corner.

Salt Miner 49 ErMar 14, 201517 votes

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Don't worry. Ashe's lack of mobility is compensated by her being the ultimate kiter.

Meanwhile in Riot HQ: An undead spear chucker is quietly hidden in a corner.

Pretty sure Kalista outlcasses Ashe as a kiter at this point in time.

YfrappefortMar 14, 201514 votes

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Pretty sure Kalista outlcasses Ashe as a kiter at this point in time.

Or rather better then her at everything.

Her slow is better then Ashe.

Her vision is way better then Ashe.

Her damage is better then Ashe.

Her kiting is far superior to Ashe.

The ONLY thing Ashe got over her is a global ult, but even then Kalista's is way better.

Kalista is Ashe 2.0, just like how Lucian was Graves 2.0 until they nerfed him over and over and over, then Graves finally got the spotlight again.

RoyaiChaosMar 14, 20152 votes

Kalist's ult isn't better than Ashe's... And Lucian was meant to be the more mobile but less bursty Graves, which is where he is now. Rito unfortunately had to take quite a while to get there though.

SkoonieMar 14, 20154 votes

Kalista's ultimate performs in a similar matter to Ashe's, but has the added benefit of saving a teammate from imminent death or giving said teammate a free gapcloser. The only way Ashe's ult is better is that it allows her to duel and has infinite range. In all honesty, as powerful as Ashe's out is, Kalista's provides so much more utility in comparison.

BeatzBoyFTWMar 14, 20151 votes

Ashe I cri everitiem Ashe

Chespin2013Mar 13, 201512 votes

u missed a few Kalista Kalista Kalista Ahri Ahri Ahri Kalista Kalista Kalista Ahri Ahri Ahri

Thresh Outta FuxMar 13, 20158 votes

11/10 most correct post all day.

Chaotic ReksMar 14, 20157 votes

Kalista

SalzigorimandoMar 14, 20156 votes

Heh, mobility eh?

Wasn't there a guy, once upon a time, who was kinda op because he had this ability to move a fairly short distance instantly and could reset it? There was somebody like that right? What was his name again?

( Ezreal Ezreal Ezreal ) ( Ezreal Ezreal Ezreal )

OperationDEEZ1Mar 14, 20153 votes

Ez had resets? Gee, the more you know. He could even heal too

SleepyLionCubMar 13, 20155 votes

Riven doesnt really fit with these 2 other champions.

Its very hard for riven to jump over terrain, leblanc and nid both can easily.

Leblanc and Nidalee both have heavy nukes with medium/high range. While riven cant hurt u if she cant get close.

Leblanc and nidalee both build AP, riven builds AD

They are hardly similar

Ariel the CruelMar 14, 20156 votes

Fun fact: Kassadin wasn't originally supposed to be an assassin. He was supposed to be a bruiser.

Riot doesn't always manage to hit the nail on the head when designing champions. Case and point: Lissandra was supposed to be a poke mage. (o_O)

DivewingMar 14, 20158 votes

wtf. "Poke mage guys got any ideas" "Shitty range and huge amounts of cc?" "Great job bros, ship it to PBE tomorrow"

Autrah FangMar 14, 20151 votes

she was actually supposed to be a kite/poke mage (at least that's what they said in her champion spotlight), so that explains why she has a semi-spammable Q for poking, and her high amounts of CC.

VerandureMar 14, 20151 votes

Or how Quinn was originally a melee.

BeatzBoyFTWMar 14, 20153 votes

Riven does not use mana.

She screw up her combo once, no worries, wait 5 seconds to do it again

Slows won't affect her

Can just WQE out to safety.

SleepyLionCubMar 14, 20151 votes

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Riven does not use mana.

She screw up her combo once, no worries, wait 5 seconds to do it again

Slows won't affect her

Can just WQE out to safety.

I didnt say she was weak. She just hardly matches with these AP assassins.

Big Bang BobMar 14, 20155 votes

Once I was playing Kassadin and couldn't catch Riven with the second level of my ult. D:

Horrible. item 3070

Troy242621Mar 13, 20154 votes

LeeSin LeeSin LeeSin LeeSin LeeSin LeeSin

Kalista Kalista Kalista Kalista Kalista Kalista

Only Play DariusMar 14, 20154 votes

Zed is the worst offender by far.

acepil0tMar 14, 20152 votes

Not in pure mobility, no. But his cheese ult shadow is frustrating to deal with, especially since it doesn't cost anything.

Lord OwlBearMar 14, 20152 votes

you forgot Katarina

PastramkaMar 14, 20151 votes

You missed a few there buddy.

TotalJerkMar 14, 20151 votes

They nerfed him because he could hop in from the next zipcode to burst you down. They wanted it to be a retune by dropping the mana cost and cooldown, so he could cover the same distance overall while being more obvious about his intention, but they didn't drop it enough.

It raises a problem tough: it means he can wall hop more often.

Champion SkinMar 14, 20151 votes

Actually Nidalee jump is as long as Kassadins jump used to be (Though she needs to hit the spear or have you step on a trap... then again it costs no mana and it doesn't even have that long cooldown 5 seconds)