all have dashes ranging from 650 - 825.
Why does my boy 
's Q only get 550?
I didn't mention 
's 700, cause I saw somewhere it was nerfed to around 450 or so, but haven't confirmed it. If this is true, stop hating on Kass, too!
BeatzBoyFTW2 votesCz why do assassins deserve love anyway.....
Bronze Prophet1 votesI like being one shot by point and click spells. It is "healthy" for me to sit under my turret all game and not be able to CS
vC48YNoGbJ1 votesBecause he has Playful which he can use immediately before or after with no restriction.
K541 votesPlayful doesn't compare to 
's Q, 's W or 
RE!
vC48YNoGbJ1 votesNone of those champions ave two gap closers so why are you comparing range to them?
K541 votes doesn't have 2 gap closers? Last I checked you could close with E or R
doesn't have two gap closers? Last I checked you close with E or R
vC48YNoGbJ1 votesNot sure when you checked but neither of those are gap closers. Zix' R is movement speed and Wukong R is his Cyclone.
K541 votesClearly you've never played Wukong. When I'm in lane, especially against against a Ziggs, Xerath, Gangplank, Nidalee, I use W behind my minion wave and when I reappear, I'm standing right beside you slapping you with my Q. This works very well since I don't move around with Wukong a lot when I'm CS'ing, so you never know when I'm the real Wukong or the clone. Then when you flash away. I use my E to close the gap again. Stun me or knock me away, I can use my R to close the gap again and that most likely kills you. When I'm ganking a lane as jungler. Normally the River is warded, so I take the entrances by the turret, clean gank. Tribush bottom lane is far enough from turret to not provide true sight, cloak in bush with 
and you can come right with the enemy minion wave.
Kha'zix R is exactly just that, A MOVEMENT SPEED BOOST THAT ALSO MAKES YOU INVISIBLE! Or did you forget about the invisible part? Did I mention you can trigger that 2 - 3 times? Impossible for any enemy to escape and makes your ganks OP af.
When you've played as Wukong or Kha'zix, you'll know their utility has a lot more uses than whatever you thought they were for.
vC48YNoGbJ1 votesI mean, you can beat on straw men literally all day and I won't care. Those two champions kits are useful, sure. They have literally nothing to do with why Fizz doesn't need a longer Q since he has E. Nothing. Movement speed isn't a gap closer either. It falls under the mobility category but doesn't close gaps.
K541 votesGoing invisible is the gap closing part. Funny you should mention that, cause SPEED is 100% of what closes gaps outside of dashes.
are just a few examples of gap closers 100% reliant on speed to close their gaps.
The Whamboozler1 votes
How is spinning in place a gapcloser?
K541 votesSpinning in place? Noobest comment I've ever heard since I started playing lmao He gets a 40% movement speed boost while spinning. Your dumb tail has better sitting in 1 spot when you use Wukong's ult hahahahahahahahahaha
My stomach is actually hurting cause I'm laughing so hard right now. Wukong is no ! You can still control him during his ult. Hard CC doesn't even stop it, he just spins in place if you CC him or moves slower if he's slowed.
Notice that when Wukong casts his ult, nobody tries to run away because you can't escape it, why? Because he's moving faster than you silly!
The Bearded Bard1 votesBecause he's the antifun
Immortal Strife1 votesHe's just another mid Lane champ converted to a top lane bruiser, just as Gragas was.
Lajinn51 votesBecause fizz is cancer as it is. My favorite part about the stupid fish is him building a stat he was never intended to build and still being capable of slaughtering everything.
K541 votesAll you people do is complain.
Faith Breaker4 votesSays the cry baby making a post COMPLAINING about nerfs to his favorite champ. Go home.
K541 votesI never even knew he was nerfed. I thought he was always like that since his creation. Also, I'm not complaining, I still love Fizz long time, just think his dash should be equal to everybody elses.
Faith Breaker1 votesNot trying to sound as hostile as I came off as then. I apologize. Fizz was a gigantic problem for a very long time. You could playful (dodge a move) THEN dash in, then Trickster out (dodge another move) and basically avoid nearly all dmg for a free high dmg burst. His dash range is in line. It may not be the same range as other champs but that's because Fizz has access to tool's in his kit those very same champs don't.
K541 votesAre you saying you used to be able to input Q between Trickster and Playful? That's OP AF!
Faith Breaker1 votesWait. No, I don't know why I put that in there. Fizz (unless I'm just wrong and so confused) has never been able to input a seperate ability command between Playful/Trickster. I think I've filled up alot of head room on recent Lissandra discussions and that probably spilled over into my Fizz thoughts. Disregard me please haha.
*Edit
Specifically, the old set up worked 1 of 2 ways. This is what I was trying to get to. You would either activate your Trident, and q in, putting yourself behind the enemy. Auto attack, and then Playful back to the other side of the enemy. If they didn't juke, you wouldn't Trickster, you'd drop Playful on the spot and if lvl6 ult. Or, if positioning suited this senario better, you would pop an enemy ability with Playful, then Trickster ontop of them or ideally behind them. Then, you would q through them placing yourself back on your side of the lane and back where you started, to repeat the harass or simply all in if they don't react appropriately.
I've fought against alot of Fizz. At first my experiances vs Fizz were usually after he got fed and roamed down bot or up top to wreck people. I didn't really like it much. Even when I learned how not to keep falling for his tactics, my allies would still end up being blown up and me and our top laner would just have to play patty-cake with our turret until respawn. Then I started to mid more often and laned against him.
It was laning against him I learned alot about how to deal with and counter him. Usually for me, it's playing a champ that teaches me best how to beat them. If I get good with a new champ, and I get beat (not because I'm newb with the champ) I just learned for myself a viable way to beat said champ. Ie, the way said champ just beat me as said, said champ. I said that.
But for Fizz, playing as him taught me some more about him but it wasn't the chunk or soul of my experiances with him. I'm adequate with him, but I think that's because of his kit and not my playstyle which he does not suit. Free for all mode taught me that. But vs him in Lane I got to see Fizz at lvl1. I got to see how he builds, how he grew, how he and when he chose to engage. I figured out early lane harass and bully, cs denial, delaying his sheen, caused him alot of trouble.
I learned now to blow my entire load in his face the second he got close enough to whisper in my ear. Yi taught me that too. I learned to hold my load until he made the first move, and figured out most of his no counter play mechanics involved mind games with his opponent rather then mechanically being superior.
With the changes they've made to his how he sets up his combos, I believe he is perfect. Inuendo's aside let me close my statement by saying this:
You say his dash could use more range. I say the way Fizz is now, is like prebuffnerf Ahri. You want to initiate with your Charm/Chum. This is your psuedo DFG and makes the rest of your dmg to this marked champ amplified. Chum creates a devastating slow field on the target, which, should give you all the opportunity you are looking for to dash in. Before you would ult at the end of your combo, needing to initiate with your q or your playful/trickster. This is not the problem anymore as you ideally want to initiate with your best form of CC, garunteeing almost you can dash in and combo away.
Faith Breaker1 votesAll I read from OP was "I'm a fanboy of Fizz, y u nerf? Rito pls?
Colgate Gator1 votesI like how you cherrypick his range and forget to mention he has a second one, which has two phases, one of them rendering him untargeteable.
Colgate Gator1 votesClearly, I have played Wukong, and the scenario you picked is way too ideal.
Also, why are you bringing up Kha'Zix now? he wasn't in your original post.
I'll just tell you that different champions have different kits, the range you gave for these assassins' gapclosers is too wide. When/If Kass' nerfs come through, someone will come saying "Why do all these assassins have 550-825 but mine has 450?" and they add Fizz' portrait to the list. Every Champion has strenghts and weaknesses, and Fizz' Q's range has never really been an issue, if anything, the issue he has now is that they dropped his damage so hard that people now are starting to lean towards AD builds.
K541 votesI still play him AP, I honestly didn't even notice the "nerfs"
I still instantly kill whenever I engage a 1v1 enemy, the exceptions being 
&
They own me in a very hard way! lol
Faith Breaker1 votesI don't see why people can't figure out you are supposed to initiate with ult now. I swear, ppl would rather play AD Fizz then learn how to play him properly. If there is a way.
Cindikle1 votesFizz has 3 ways to close a gap -Q -E -R
Two of those have soft CC One has hard CC One is targeted and can stack a lot of damage.
And yes they're planning to nerf Kass's R to 450.