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@RIOT Annie Bot has opened 316 chests

Sorceress Soleil··103 votes·7,044 views

and has only gotten 9 gemstones and no Hextech Annie skin.

My point is that don't you think the drop-rate for this might be a little... skewed? I understand the intention and the skin has definitely helped draw people towards the chest grind/buy, but, uh, a more reasonable rng might be nice? Not complaining, just suggesting. I don't really care to get the skin (<3 sweetheart and goth) but to see the player with the most Annie games in the world unable to get the only skin he's missing for the only champ he plays/cares about, it kinda sucks.

Not to mention just by raw numbers alone it's kinda silly. I could understand this being a dumb argument if it was any other skin or group not dropping (because "we didn't even have the chance at free skins before, be grateful, etc etc") which is fair but this skin is exclusively ONLY available in hextech crafting. So. I think this suggestion is also reasonable and not greedy or entitled.

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lilpokfluf76 votes

He's spending money for those chests? I'd say riot thinks it's working as intended

Weasel Kensei1 votes

LILPOKELUF is correct. Riot isnt trying to give you free stuff with a grind, and let you speed up the process with some cash... not the purpose.

Its a scheme to get people gambling. Just like a casino, you throwing money at a random number generator and "hope" you get a good result.

OmegaTree11912 votes

I have a friend that bought 50 and got Hextech Annie. I was stunned. The chest are RNG related, some people are lucky and some aren't. :\

MunchCrunchLunch15 votes

did you get stunned by annie or the fact that he got the skin?

Hello I am Bird4 votes

Not only did he get stunned, but I get he got mauled too

######Hating the Annie changes intensifies

Princess Emma10 votes

This is just RNG though.

It is no different than opening a pack of Pokemon / Yu-Gi-Oh cards and not getting the card you want or need. Same thing for those machines that dispense little toys and trinkets.

PDE5 Inhib2 votes

I would get so sad when I didn't get Charizard or Blue-Eyes White Dragon item 3070

DarkLarvitar9 votes

Redmercy did 500 and got 10 with 9 to spare

Jofeyy4 votes

Yeah that's exactly what i was gnna say too LOL

ScissorMyTibbers2 votes

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Redmercy did 500 and got 10 with 9 to spare

he did $500 worth I think it was like 380~ chests

Hatless Casual6 votes

RNG sucks. I had to farm a raid in WoW for 2 years to get a pair of boots to drop for transmog. The boss itself was RNG with 1 of 3 possible outcomes, and then the loot itself was pulled from 2 tables. (one from the boss chosen and one from the event as a whole)

I have gotten 4 rare drop mounts with .01% drop before the boots with an alleged 25% drop rate actually happened.

Believe me when I say when you get the item you've worked your butt off finally becomes yours.... absolute gambler's high. [slayer-jinx-wink]

Lauchmelder4 votes

2 years of farming in an MMO called ArcheAge was all in vain for me. Farming the same mob over and over for a drop on a design to get the best weapon ingame (which was locked behind a 1 in 150+ chance to even get an upgradable weapon and had a chance to proc 1 of 7 different stats which only 3 of them were usefull) resulted in nothing.

I farmed about 2 Million Mobs without one dropping. Full loot buffs on naturally. RNGesus wasn't on my side.

DragonSlayrDiana4 votes

2 years farming Mesa on warframe, it meant 3 runthroughs of infestation mission to get a coordinate, 3 coordinate to make a key to fight the boss and the boss dropped one of three pieces to the warframe. This meant with absolute rng-sus it would take a minimum to 27 + 3 boss fights. It took me 46 boss fights and that means 414 missions for coordinates. These missions weren't even available all the time, it was alert type missions that happened once or twice a day. So I understand a real gamblers high :F

It Hertz When IP2 votes

I play DayZ.

Nuff said.

DREADN0UGHT4 votes

^I have innapropriate ammounts of feels right now

BornAgainVirgin5 votes

truly sad to hear this is going on, they should just gift it to annie bot. like after 300 you should just get it, that is at least fair i think

WolfBV5 votes

Why would someone want Hextech Annie so badly?

GaleWinUnleashed37 votes

Is the name "Annie Bot" not enough of an indicator?

Myozthirirn4 votes

nope, its not. No matter how much you play annie, you can only use one skin at a time so having more than one is kinda useless. Specialy if said skin cost arround 500$

wang dang doodle28 votes

"You can only wear one outfit of clothing at a time so having more than one is useless"

Yet I'm certain you have multiple possible outfits in your closet.

Jonxx7 votes

Good point, but to be honest I'd myself would probably wear my favourite clothes everyday if not for the fact that I need to clean them and because of seasons. ;)

Tentacle Love4 votes

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"You can only wear one outfit of clothing at a time so having more than one is useless"

Yet I'm certain you have multiple possible outfits in your closet.

Yes but they're all batman suits.

Is your closet different?

Weasel Kensei1 votes

Well, if I only had 1 outfit...

Id be naked when I washed it.

Id be cold if it wasnt a cold-weather outfit.

Id be hot if it wasnt a warm-weather outfit.

Id have to wash it frequently wearing it out sooner.

Id have to walk around wet or dirty if I got splashed or something spilled on me.

Id constantly be asked if those were the only cloths I had.

I think you kinda get the point. Seeing as some clothing has different uses in mind, having mroe than one outfit is hardly "useless."

WolfBV1 votes

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Is the name "Annie Bot" not enough of an indicator?

Nein

GaleWinUnleashed1 votes

Okay :(

Spicy Rice5 votes

He is probably one of the best, if not the best annie player in the world. Annie is literally all he plays

Tentacle Love1 votes

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He is probably one of the best, if not the best annie player in the world. Annie is literally all he plays

Unless Annie is banned out or picked first by the other team. I actually witnessed this once. I giggled every time annie got team-ganked. I giggled a lot.

GaleWinUnleashed1 votes

I believe the name of one of his rune pages was "Fck I didn't get Annie".

Sohleks4 votes

I think it's kinda scummy they make one very special very hard to obtain skin with obscure value to spike their bank accounts. But I guess they prey on those willing.

I had PBE access so I could test the gems had sub 5% droprates. A person will basically never get it through the free rate only lol. You either have to get extremely lucky with the shard (it's a joke that can happen imo) or you toss Riot 100's of dollars.

I guess there are worse things that could happen and in the process you get lots of random stuff though...

The price didn't have to be soo high though. There could have done more "mythic skins" with lower costs. But it feels like they did the laziest greediest thing possible.

Success to the game makes me happy... I guess tho? lol

Pikmints4 votes

If someone's trying to get one specific skin through Hextech Crafting, any skin and not just the Hextech Annie one, then they need to expect that to take a lot of chests. Someone could get it in 20 chests or someone could get it after 100, but Riot certainly made that specific skin much more desirable by making it only available through that system.

They don't want everyone that buys chests to get the Annie skin because then they're not likely to buy as many chests. They intentionally keep the rate low so that people spend over $100 trying to get a single skin. That skin has artificially become the most expensive skin in the game and, in my opinion, it's not even the best skin in the game yet people are more than willing to spend a ludicrous amount of money simply for a chance at it. Let's remember that that's money being spend on a skin that someone could get for free if they just kept getting S ranks. If you're an Annie main it makes more sense, but the hype around that skin seems disproportional to how much quality the skin actually has. It might be the best Annie skin out currently, but I'd rather buy Pulsefire Ez or Spirit Guard Udyr before getting Hextech Annie because they are a fraction of the price for more content.

And since some people here already mentioned Redmercy, I've done the math on how long it would've taken someone six years to get if they simply waited and opened chests through weekly S ranks. Not a reasonable amount of time, but a nice reminder of how getting 1 year's worth of boxes effectively gives you an average of 1.7 gems.

SettDownShutUp1 votes

The one thing that irks me, is that it HAS to be unique S ranks with different champions. You cannot get a chest from the same S-rank on a champ. And it only refreshes after the season changes. That's practically a YEAR.

dunkeroni1 votes

That's sorta the whole point... You can't get rewards by cancerously spamming champions like Zed in low ELO. You have to actually play a variety of roles.

At least that was the point until Riot added in the part where your premade can get an S instead. Then it's just another way to ostracize solo players.

My Waifu Vanilla1 votes

Except your premade getting the S knocks every champion all 5 of you were playing out of the running. My friend gets an S on Azir? Great now my Evelynn is ineligible for a chest if I ever decide to get an S on her since it happened to be the champion I was playing when my friend got an S on Azir.

dunkeroni1 votes

But you got a chest for it anyway, so "out of the running" doesn't matter.

A Prop Phone3 votes

Better luck on the next 316 chests rofl.

Steel Blossom3 votes

I think that the higher mastery you have on a champion, the lower the chance of you getting a skin for that champion. I've opened about 250+ chests on the PBE, didn't even get a single Riven or Talon skin shard. Everything about Hextech crafting just makes me want to grab the people responsible and drown them in acid.

Bladerunner77773 votes

Increase the drop rate? The only reason the lame skin is special is because it's rare

Elikain3 votes

Redmercy has spent 500 dollars for 320 chests and keys and he also gotten barely 10 gemstones to craft the Hextech Annie skin. I don't even know why, he doesn't play Annie, he just wanted the skin for some reason. I think the drop rate of gemstones is fair right now. Annie's skin is an exclusive skin that can be gotten in 3 ways.

  1. Owning every skin that can be bought and re-rolling any 3 skin shards.
  2. Getting it randomly through a chest drop.
  3. Getting 10 gemstones and crafting her.

So saying that Jared is a passionate Annie main and that he deserves to have every skin for her would be like saying that every Riven main should be able to own her Championship skin. Drop rates for gemstones are about 3 % so you should realistically expect 3 gems per 100 chests. Jared oppened 316, that's still 9. I see nothing wrong with that math. It's a game of chance and it sucks that he didn't get lucky.

Sona Ping1 votes

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I don't even know why, he doesn't play Annie, he just wanted the skin for some reason.

I'll give you a hint.

https://i.imgur.com/xH7NAW1.png

lnstantCoffee1 votes

This reminds me, when do we get to trade skins in hextech crafting? because it is bound to happen at some point.

Elikain1 votes

I doubt that we'll get this option, ever.

TallyZrg3 votes

Funny, I opened roughly 140 chests and got 11. Feelsbadman

Hentai Lewds2 votes

i spent rp on 10ish chests but i got 9 champion shards and i gave up :P

Trylobyte2 votes

My friend must be super lucky, because she got it in five chests. Yes, five. RNG for ya.

ya boi shaq2 votes

I've never bought a chest or key, and got Hextech Annie shard from a drop yesterday. Yes, I'm extremely lucky but where will I get 2300 essence to make it permanent?

dunkeroni2 votes

Actually that falls right in line with what's expected for Hextech Annie. Other tests on PBE usually took around 350 chests to get the 10 requisite gemstones.

Penta Penguin1 votes

It sucks and all but Anie Bot and other streamers and youtubers just spend subscriber / donation money on those crates. It isn't really their money but it's certainly Riot's money now. It happened with CS:GO, it happened with Hearthstone, of course it's going to happen with Hextech.

The psychological manipulations and 'cash sinks' in games have been getting worse, and the community itself heavily enables it. Don't think for a minute that Riot's marketing team doesn't realize how many streamers are out there and how many people they have donating and subbing to them daily.

Sakaru8 votes

"It isn't really their money" That is the dumbest argument I've ever heard. Subscriber/donation money is their sole income. That'd be exactly like saying an office worker isn't really spending their money, they're just spending the paycheck their boss gave them.

Just because some people don't consider it a real job or real income, doesn't change the fact that it absolutely IS their job and their sole income. They're just lucky enough to have one they thoroughly enjoy doing.

Penta Penguin1 votes

It is their income, but understand that it fluctuates more than other professions. You get monthly subscriber income and then donations on top of that. On any given day you may decide to host a 'crate opening' and earn way more in donations to open crates than any other day. It would look bad if you just pocketed that money instead of opening the crates. If you're not opening crates then it's business as usual and you have your regular income.

Sakaru3 votes

It's still literally their money to do with as they please. Donations are for the streamer, you don't get to decide what they do with it. If they decide to spend those donations on crates, that's their choice to do with their money.

I've seen plenty of CS:GO and Hearthstone streams where they clearly state "I'm spending ___ on this" they get donations saying to put it towards the opening, and they politely decline but thank them for helping the stream.

There's nothing wrong with that in the slightest, since it's their money. It doesn't hurt their subscriber count, nor their viewer count and they calmly move on. Because people realize "Hey, it's their money. They don't have to waste even more than they already did if they don't want."

Also apologies for the original (Admittedly very mild) hostility in my first comment. I don't like being that guy, even if it's only a little. Just tiresome to see people acting like their money doesn't belong to them, just because a subscriber/donator spent money to help their income.

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