Quinn's loss of ult damage is overdone, at least vs minion

Octavia·3/24/2017, 2:49:23 PM·2 votes·1,472 views

Her ban rate had already dropped down to almost 0 pre nerf (was only OP because of items that were nerfed) so I don't really understand the point in nerfing her in the first place when she was pretty balanced, but the ult nerf is just killing laning. You have to use q now to finish off the wave and sit there auto attacking because the ult does almost no damage to minions.

If she got a boost to the ult damage vs minions she'd be in a much better state (like double damage vs minions).

She's gone from not OP but definitely strong to just plain weak and underpowered.

Even with a Q + ult minions are left with health early game which is very damaging.

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Yuzuki Yukarin3/29/2017, 9:21:33 AM6 votes

The patch 5.22 Quinn rework was a failure, short and simple. Rito once AGAIN tried making her viable bot lane, refused to give her a kit that would work in bot lane, then abandoned her in a less healthy state. Just like Rito's usual habit of destroying champion identities and then abandoning them in less healthy states. Meddler himself finally publicly admitted this week that all of the class reworks have been overall failures.

Let's also not forget Valor is no longer a champion anymore and the retarded ass animation for the retardedly named MOUNT that she has instead of an ult.

To this day, I haven't played Quinn a single time since 5.22 and she used to be one of my go-to top lane picks.

We wouldn't even be sitting here discussing unjustifiable nerfs that were caused as direct result of blatantly broken mechanics, if Rito had just admitted their failure and reverted Quinn or given her a rework that actually made sense to her identity.

Wînter Fox3/27/2017, 2:04:35 PM3 votes

Quinn is a giant malignant cancerous tumor on top lane. She's super oppressive early against every melee champ, she has ridiculous roaming potential, and can hyper carry late game. Any nerfs to this disgusting champion doesn't go far enough.

Kirius Dark3/24/2017, 3:04:20 PM2 votes

o no, a champ cant just hit 1 button to clear a wave then go roam anymore! must actually auto and use other abilities?? BUFF NOW

Shonjl3/24/2017, 4:32:20 PM2 votes

Her minion clear is the least of her problems. Its her using a no cost ult to kill a wave, then use that same ult to run into you at 800 MS with EoN so she can't be stopped to kill someone that is the issue.

She is just as cancerous as Tahm. At least every OP pick in the game can be countered in some shape or form, be it better positioning, landing a nicely timed CC, bursted, grouping up to counter them. Quinn none really works. Positioning doesn't stop her from sniping someone since she goes so fast she will just sneak behind you and kill your backline. CC doesn't stop her since she will have EoN so she can't be stopped from jumping on you. She can't be bursted since due to can't be CCed, she will 100% kill at least 1 person which is her job, even if she dies in the process, if she takes out your strongest member, its worth it for her.

I hope she gets gutted since she is worse than normal assasssins. At least they have the decency of you actually knowing where they are or generally where they are coming from to get to you. Quinn can be on top lane while you are grouped up mid and suddenly is flanking you from bot side in the span of literally seconds. If I get blown up by a Talon, Zed, or Kat I feel outplayed since they can damn well die in the process of trying to get the kill. Quinn though? It doesn't take skill or any knowledge at all to just go bird mode, use Yoomuu and EoN and just ram into someone at 800+ MS and kill them in literally 1 hit, and jokes on you she has to be hit twice to stop her, once for EoN and another for her ult before she isn't as scary.

mrlittleman53/24/2017, 3:15:57 PM1 votes

Well the change to her w will give her more damage output towards tanks, so there's at least that. Sides, her ult isn't necessary to get super fed.

urgotdangit3/24/2017, 4:10:36 PM1 votes

It does seem a little weak, but late game you can clear damn near everything with a Q if you're building correctly. Q+old R was too oppressive. Besides, if you build something like item 3153 item 3046 item 3047 item 3142 item 3147 (last item), your AS is just silly with the buff to W, and you melt damn near anything. It's pretty fun.