This carrying thing doesn't work
It just results in a win and then a loss and win then a loss. It's a joke. You can't get win streaks even if you improve because what's around you will make the game unwinnable.
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FACE THE WlND14 votesWell if you're losing you're obviously not carrying, so you must be doing something wrong.
EtyrnaI3 votes[{quoted}](name=FACE THE WlND,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ROdRZuEn,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-04-19T12:36:24.710+0000)
Well if you're losing you're obviously not carrying, so you must be doing something wrong.
+1 for figuring out his problem in seconds, in which he has very likely contemplated for days & hours on end only to arrive here at the game play forums.
As they say, you da real MVP.
FACE THE WlND4 votesIt's quite simple really lol, carry=winning, losing=not winning. Idk how he couldn't figure it out sooner. +1 for common sense! [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=FACE THE WlND,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ROdRZuEn,comment-id=000000000000,timestamp=2016-04-19T12:41:23.179+0000)
It's quite simple really lol, carry=winning, losing=not winning. Idk how he couldn't figure it out sooner. +1 for common sense! [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
I am where I am at because of these teams. I have improved vastly but these teams suck.
redniwediS4 votesHonestly man, if you look up a meme involving Bronze 5 you're likely to see a statement identical to what you just said.
That's what we've been trying to tell you. The way you're thinking is that of a Bronze player. If you want to get out of Bronze you have got to stop thinking like this.
Lyless2 votes+1 for figuring out his problem in seconds, in which he has very likely contemplated for days & hours on end only to arrive here at the game play forums.
As they say, you da real MVP.
No the problem, is the trash I am surrounded by. I keep improving and teams keep pulling me down. Laughing about dying not caring at all about winning. Fighting and arguing, going off on their own and feeding. But sure just let the enemy have 2 and 3 level advantages and then expect me to carry. Sure. That makes sense.
ElysMustache12 votesAs has been pointed out in innumerable threads that you have created, you are the problem.
You specifically stated that you refused to believe that you were causing your losses. But you are. Recognize your mistakes, and stop making them.
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=FACE THE WlND,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ROdRZuEn,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-04-19T12:36:24.710+0000)
Well if you're losing you're obviously not carrying, so you must be doing something wrong.
Sure. Or could be the jungler that never ganks so I have to play 2v1 the whole game or it could be the teemo that feeds the entire game or it could jg who just went afk at the end of game. But sure, you be LAZY and blame me for the only one that seems to care about winning the game.
FACE THE WlND6 votesNonono, you must not get it. Carrying means that you make up for all of the dead weight on your team with or without the assistance of others. I'm the lazy blamer? You blame others for your losses. You will never improve if you don't get past this mindset, it's most likely holding you back. I haven't had an afk in ages, if you have them so often I'm truly sorry.
EtyrnaI2 votes[{quoted}](name=FACE THE WlND,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ROdRZuEn,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2016-04-19T12:43:47.359+0000)
Nonono, you must not get it. Carrying means that you make up for all of the dead weight on your team with or without the assistance of others. I'm the lazy blamer? You blame others for your losses. You will never improve if you don't get past this mindset, it's most likely holding you back. I haven't had an afk in ages, if you have them so often I'm truly sorry.
+2 Slappin' the knowledge down. #FaceTheWind
FACE THE WlND2 votesxD Honored to be in the presence of D nidalee god.
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=FACE THE WlND,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ROdRZuEn,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2016-04-19T12:43:47.359+0000)
Nonono, you must not get it. Carrying means that you make up for all of the dead weight on your team with or without the assistance of others. I'm the lazy blamer? You blame others for your losses. You will never improve if you don't get past this mindset, it's most likely holding you back. I haven't had an afk in ages, if you have them so often I'm truly sorry.
I have 4 champs that are dead weight nearly every game. Show me anyone that can carry that. You are lazy. You don't have to attempt to do that and you think you can give advice based on never having to go though this. Mindset? This is actual reality. This is not a mindset. You need to get over this BS you are on! I have a AFK 1 out of every 3 games. So, your path is eaiser. Congrats, Lazy!
FACE THE WlND3 votesWell, actually about 65% of the playerbase can do it apparently. You're the minority who can't. There must be a reason for that. When I started I was Bronze 5, this was on another account, got it out in 3 days. Intentionally placed this account bronze 3 to rank it up and play with friends, got it out in a day.
FACE THE WlND2 votesYou're also part of the 6% of worst players to play in ranked this season, just thought I'd share that because you're being ignorant.
redniwediS1 votesThat's just the way he is at the moment. By the looks of it he's honestly putting a lot of effort into trying, he just doesn't seem to know what to be putting that effort into just yet.
FACE THE WlND2 votesPuts too much effort into complaining/focusing on the problems of others, and doesn't focus on improving, I guarantee he is a 5 minute "gg /ff at 20"'r.
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=FACE THE WlND,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ROdRZuEn,comment-id=000000010000000100000000,timestamp=2016-04-19T12:58:46.394+0000)
You're also part of the 6% of worst players to play in ranked this season, just thought I'd share that because you're being ignorant.
And my team feeding has nothing to do with it? Yeah right....
FACE THE WlND1 votesYou belong where you are. End of story. //thread
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=FACE THE WlND,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ROdRZuEn,comment-id=00000001000000010000000000010000,timestamp=2016-04-19T13:12:29.372+0000)
You belong where you are. End of story. //thread
No I am not. Within 3 mins of the last game I in the my team was 0-3. Bottom line. It's their fault not mine.
FACE THE WlND4 votesThat means nothing in bronze. So what if they're 0-3 three minutes in? That is 100% recoverable. I've come back from unbelievable deficits before, never give up, every game is winnable.
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=FACE THE WlND,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ROdRZuEn,comment-id=00000001000000010000,timestamp=2016-04-19T12:56:04.134+0000)
Well, actually about 65% of the playerbase can do it apparently. You're the minority who can't. There must be a reason for that. When I started I was Bronze 5, this was on another account, got it out in 3 days. Intentionally placed this account bronze 3 to rank it up and play with friends, got it out in a day.
65%? That's not true. Yeah I shouldn't blame people who feed the entire game.
LiveYiOrDieHard2 votes[{quoted}](name=FACE THE WlND,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ROdRZuEn,comment-id=000000010000,timestamp=2016-04-19T12:43:47.359+0000)
Nonono, you must not get it. Carrying means that you make up for all of the dead weight on your team with or without the assistance of others. I'm the lazy blamer? You blame others for your losses. You will never improve if you don't get past this mindset, it's most likely holding you back. I haven't had an afk in ages, if you have them so often I'm truly sorry.
Don't feel sorry for him I'm pretty sure this OP causes them himself.
EtyrnaI6 votesLyless Bronze V 73 League Points KDA: 2.4 – 4.1/5.0/8.1
220 W – 252 L 46.6%
archerno15 votesIn order to "carry" your skill level has to be above your division level. If u are able to go 0:11 against bronze V with Warwick, then u dont belong anywhere higher than Bronze V
Aeko5 votesFirst of all, looking at your match history there's really quite a lot to say.
You have a lot of ranked games played this season but for some reason you end up with 47% winrate. Is there a reason for this, according to your post your teammates is what's pulling you down.
I'm not going to argue with you that teammates pull you down, for that I agree with you. I've been in bronze V myself season 3, instead of complaining about it, I got good and now I'm diamond. If the majority of the player base can do it, there's no legitimate reason you can't. I've played on smurfs multiple times climbing though all the elos. It's no different up there, you get afks, you get trolls, and you get people who seem straight up like they don't belong in that elo. But you're bronze V, the 'elo hell' that people say exist. In reality it does not exist, its just a mindset where everyone elseat that elo is so bad that you can't win.
_ If that's the case think about the statistics of it, you could have 4 potential failures on your team, while the enemy has a potential 5 failures. _
What's your reason if you've improved so much that while they have the 5 potential failures you can't win with 4 potential failures, that means its just on you that you're not good enough to carry that elo, meaning you need to get even better. This in the long haul correlates to win ratio. 5 > 4 so its more often that they get more worse players, if you're good enough to win against 5 worse players with you carrying, then eventually your win ratio will go above 50+. It's just statistics.
Furthermore you're thinking about it the wrong way, instead of stating that teammates pull you down and you can't win because of that, you really should be saying what can I do to make up for the all the useless people on my team, aka carrying. It's quite possible as I've seen in some of your games where you have extremely good k.d.a and you WIN.
That's the biggest part, if you get good k.d.a and you lose its not carrying, you did well but you didn't play good enough to the point where your own performance outperformed the negative performance from your teammates. In the end it comes down to are you good enough to carry, if you say you've improved then you need to improve more if you still aren't winning.
If you claim you've really improved so much and you're still not able to carry because of your teammates, then add me in game, Aeko, and let me be the judge of that.
Edit : you say that our bronze experiences were past seasons, yet Im playing on a smurf in bronze 1 trying to derank even further but i cant because i win when i dont try. People are reallybad at this elo its like playing advanced bots tbh.
ElysMustache4 votesYou take Heal as support when your ADC has heal. You play top lane Cho'gath with exhaust and without flash. You don't build sightstone on support. Your warding is awful.
Look man. Your best champion is Soraka, and you're crippling your team when playing her by not building Sightstone. You clearly don't understand vision. If you stick with support, and actually learn the role, you will easily climb out of Bronze V.
100% you are the reason you are not climbing.
Lyless1 votesYou take Heal as support when your ADC has heal. You play top lane Cho'gath with exhaust and without flash. You don't build sightstone on support. Your warding is awful.
Look man. Your best champion is Soraka, and you're crippling your team when playing her by not building Sightstone. You clearly don't understand vision. If you stick with support, and actually learn the role, you will easily climb out of Bronze V.
100% you are the reason you are not climbing.
You told a couple of lies.
I don't use Heal with Soraka anymore.
I had exhust in the last game with Cho.
Sightstone? In Bronze it doesn't matter.
Warding in Bronze doesn't matter.
In the end, it's not my fault. I get a crappy adc who won't even touch a turret let alone move forward.
FACE THE WlND4 votesHAHAHA HE THINKS WARDING DOESNT MATTER! You don't ward, another problem, this is progress! Keep em' coming!
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=FACE THE WlND,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ROdRZuEn,comment-id=000700000000,timestamp=2016-04-19T13:20:02.735+0000)
HAHAHA HE THINKS WARDING DOESNT MATTER!
when you have horrible teams, it doesn't I have warded a lot in some games and we still lose. The same results.
redniwediS5 votesYou're not just warding for your team, you're also warding to give yourself vision.
If you're as good as you think you are you should be able to put those wards and vision to good use.
LiveYiOrDieHard4 votesI'm 46-5 on Renekton this season and 2 of those losses were because I lost my lane myself. This guy cracks me up with this "carrying doesn't work" lol.
FHMarshy3 voteshttp://na.op.gg/summoner/matches/userName=lyless
Sorry to burst your bubble, but : Loss as Master Yi : 1-6-1 is NOT carrying. Loss as Warwick : 0-11-5 is NOT carrying. (Everyone but YOU were doing fine in that game)
I don't want to go down on the list. Those should be sufficient
To be fair, you also lost a few that you were doing fine BUT you also won a few that you were doing bad.
Bottom line. You carry = you win on the longer run..
Stop whining.
Lyless1 voteshttp://na.op.gg/summoner/matches/userName=lyless
Sorry to burst your bubble, but : Loss as Master Yi : 1-6-1 is NOT carrying. Loss as Warwick : 0-11-5 is NOT carrying. (Everyone but YOU were doing fine in that game)
I don't want to go down on the list. Those should be sufficient
To be fair, you also lost a few that you were doing fine BUT you also won a few that you were doing bad.
Bottom line. You carry = you win on the longer run..
Stop whining.
Let's pick out every loss. I didn't carry in that 13/2 Warwick game that you forgot put up here? Oh yea...... stop being bias!
FACE THE WlND2 votesSigh... This must be a troll 500 games in he making. He planned this months ago.
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=FACE THE WlND,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ROdRZuEn,comment-id=000c00000000,timestamp=2016-04-19T13:29:23.817+0000)
Sigh... This must be a troll 500 games in he making. He planned this months ago.
I don't need help for anyone like you. I would rather go to 500 games than play with anyone like you. You got carried to wherever you are. Get off my post.
FACE THE WlND2 votesPlease add me. I really wanna play with you. Ur right tho I must be carried.
FACE THE WlND2 votesPls add me I'm so dedicated to this.
LiveYiOrDieHard2 votes[{quoted}](name=FACE THE WlND,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ROdRZuEn,comment-id=000c0000000000000001,timestamp=2016-04-19T13:35:42.130+0000)
Pls add me I'm so dedicated to this.
Last time I saw somebody duo with him this guy flamed some guy in champion select "because teh guy is known troll" and then was shocked when said guy trolled/afk'd and then told the guy he duo'd with he was bad for not carrying the game lmao.
FHMarshy6 votesUm...You won that game? Isn't that the WHOLE POINT?
You carry and you win. But you blame everyone around you for losing when you actually didn't do well either?
How is that not biased from your end? LOL
Slythion3 votesCongratulations on building Soraka better man! You built legitimate support and even got a sightstone good job :D You even won the game ^-^
69469238DEL11 votesCarrying is a myth, you need at least two decent players on a team to successfully carry the three lumps of meat, and you'll only start to get that in Gold. This is from experience, Silver is just a shiny Bronze, I've been climbing super fast since I got out. Good luck.
Lyless1 votes[{quoted}](name=Hunted Horror,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=ROdRZuEn,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2016-04-19T12:43:27.156+0000)
Carrying is a myth, you need at least two decent players on a team to successfully carry the three lumps of meat, and you'll only start to get that in Gold. This is from experience, Silver is just a shiny Bronze, I've been climbing super fast since I got out. Good luck.
I don't have two decent players. You can't find two decent players.
69469238DEL14 votesYou didn't mention you were Bronze 5, you're exactly where you belong. [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
redniwediS1 votesyou're*
69469238DEL15 votesThank you, fixed.
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