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This is how i think Zed could be nerfed...

Jlesaistu·4/10/2015, 1:27:59 AM·15 votes·2,275 views

Imo, Zed get two main problem:

to safe laning due to the combination of being energy based (cannot run out of harass/cs spam), pretty good harass, easy last hit (passive + aoe waveclear).....
to low counterplay / hard to punish all in...

So here are a couple things i THINK could help him more managable in laning/counterplay withous hurting his power to much:

shuriken:

reduce range from 900 to 800
reduce pass trought damage to 50% from 60%
increase CD to 7 second from 6

Dont hurt his pure kill portential, but would greatly help him NOT being a assasin who can outpoke a mage sitting there. That NOT the point of a assasin. they are supose to have relatively weak laning and rely on kill/roaming to get fed. Not sitting there outfarming and outpoking the fuck out of half mid champ...

Ult:

-add a 2/1.5/1 second delay before he can use either R shadow or W shadow after he ulted.

So at least, this would give a decent chance to fight him back / kill him if he go all-in too recklessly. Might still kill you with R afterdamage, but allow for punishement. Right now fact he can just ult in from 625 range (not bad by itsefl), but instantly Ult away after a quick E+Q combo (what will probly kill you with R damage and that FINE) then W out even furether (together that like over 1000 unit of escape) just seem a little too god. Even assasin who bring lot of complain like Leblanc and Talon dont get nearly as good escape chance if they go recklessly all-in.

61 Comments

Ishka4/10/2015, 1:37:30 AM5 votes

Zed is one of the most unique champs out there. He's not "op". It takes time to learn how to master him, and how to escape CC, etc. All you're doing is complaining about how op he is, how about you find out how to counter him in lane? Zhonyas, Sash, dodging his skillshots in lane? Those things will help you understand that Zed isn't op, all of his skills contain skillshots, except for his E, and lock on Ult. With that being said, you could also counter him but getting exhaust, see, you're thinking the wrong way.

Secondly, that ult suggestion, is probably the worst suggestion ever. That means he isn't an assassin. An assassin gets in and out quick and fast, if you add cd to his R and W he'll just be stuck there, wtf. Have you even played Zed? He's a 6300 IP champ for a reason, hard to learn, understanding his mechanics takes a long time to do. Pisses me off when people complain about how OP he is, instead of just countering, by simply having a Liss on your team, and ulting him everytime and let your team focus him? It's that easy... ffs. Or just keep putting exhaust on him on every fight, ITS THAT EASY. BUYING ZHONYAS OR A QUICKSILVER SASH, ITS THAT EASY.

Sirsir4/10/2015, 3:27:47 AM3 votes

2 seconds might be a bit hefty, 1-1.5 might be better. Or make it scale, 2>1.75>1.5

ClatoVerataNicto4/10/2015, 5:00:02 AM2 votes

How about he can't teleport to his R shadow until after a kill. He can still use his W shadow.

This would force Zed to think about if his W is up or not before he goes all in. He can either use it to engage and risk being stuck, or save it to escape and have to position better to ult in the first place.

fk u vlajic4/10/2015, 3:04:17 AM2 votes

I honestly think that the only thing unfair about him is his CSing. His passive is pretty insane against minions, making it incredibly easy to last it, which means he could easily get ahead in lane, which could lead to getting fed, which could lead to all of the points mentioned. I feel like his current passive should be build into his ult so that he gets it at level 6, and he should get a new passive. Other than that, I like his overall kit and think it's pretty fair.

TwoD4/10/2015, 4:04:14 AM2 votes

Riot doesn't nerf Zed. YOU nerf Zed. You do that by starting to actually give a fuck about winning and lessen the shitty plays you make.

TL;DR, get out of the dumpster.

Juicyman4/10/2015, 4:32:07 AM2 votes

Remove his passive from minions that is it.

Snake Town4/10/2015, 2:53:31 AM2 votes

Zed needs buffs item 3070 Zed give him lifesteal

I GANK LANES4/10/2015, 2:50:07 AM1 votes

Can someone clue me in on why literally EVERYONE complains about Zed when Leblanc has stronger, more consistent kill potential, strong wave clear is a HELL of a lot safer than Zed, and is a way bigger lane bully w/ her targeted damage? Play against a good Leblanc and a good Zed, let me know which one gives you a harder time in lane.

nomeL4/10/2015, 2:29:38 AM1 votes

"How to nerf zed" So you just "assume" he needs a nerf? He doesn't. HE'S NOTHING when he doesn't have a kill or two. He has no cc all he can do if he isnt fed is ult a carry in a teamfight and hope to not die right away. And you also have to manage his energy

GoAltF44/10/2015, 2:24:56 AM1 votes

well the fact that he's barely played in masters/challenger level in korea, and not even banned much shows that he's not priority atm ..........

in all honesty, you're just playing badly against the zed

not to mention, majority of mid laners core item is a counter to zed, ... zhonyas

not to mention, fiddle, lulu, janna, all counter him hard also, cho mid and zed cant do shit

also......................... im sorry but if anyone says they should nerf a skill shot.... it just shows instantly you cant dodge shit