so after 8+ years of league existing

cupcaker·9/26/2018, 8:19:35 AM·3 votes·1,055 views

cc still has no diminishing returns on it

nothing more fun than getting chain cc'ed and just sitting there staring at your screen for 5 seconds until you die, amirite?

inb4 "dont get hit with cc then" you can't dodge 100% of everything, and some cc's are targeted.

there's a reason most pvp games put diminishing returns on stuff.

a good example is WoW, which coincidentally one of the lead designers for wow works for riot now(ghostcrawler). DR's were put in after vanilla because the devs realized nobody wants to get constantly cc'ed until theyre dead.

12 Comments

AeroWaffle9/26/2018, 8:28:06 AM3 votes

CC in WoW is much more plentiful, to the point where if diminishing returns were not a thing a single person could keep someone chain-CC'ed near indefinitely. Wow doesn't have complete diminishing returns even with the massive amount of CC, it's only diminishing between similar spells (Roots causes diminishing returns on roots, stun on stun, etc).

While there's CC in League, a vast majority of the CC can miss (skillshots) or give the target the opportunity to avoid it in some way (delayed effect, tether, stacking mechanic, etc). Riot has been phasing out targeted, unavoidable hard CC a fair bit. See Taric and Sion for example.

LilxPaprika9/26/2018, 8:49:17 AM1 votes

well another source of tenacity option would be a good place to start: see here https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/UfUoZRMH-tenacity-item-idea-mainly-for-chain-cc

Glaedr9/26/2018, 11:32:18 AM1 votes

I personally hate diminishing returns in wow. When I use an ability I want it to feel impactful which matters a hell of a lot more in a MOBA where you only have 4 abilities (not including active items) than an MMO where you have anywhere from 10-20 different abilities, half of which may all have some sort of CC attached to it through modifiers like legendaries or artifacts.

I can see a newer player hating how League does it if they're used to MMOs (along with Smite and HOTS for that matter) but I like reading an ability and knowing exactly what it does and not having to guess like it's Hearthstone with wacky interactions figuring out what the hell it actually does when paired with various effects.

Warlord Rhinark9/26/2018, 11:48:41 AM1 votes

We wouldn't need diminishing returns if Tenacity actually did something...

verysalt9/26/2018, 3:10:29 PM1 votes

CC is the only way to counter cancerous assassins.