If we forget about gold from ultimate, his E stun being long and his pretty fast mobility.
If you think 
is strong if we extract away all of these above ^
PROVE IT
and we will see if you turn out to have a wise criticism or just generaly you not knowing how to play against him
Hotarµ6 votesIf you eliminate 3/4ths of anyone's kit, of course they're not going to be strong...?
Not really sure what the point of this post is.
Ragnaveil2 votesidk either.
DamSonWhUFndThis1 votesoh wow why downvote? because I ballanced Pyke or because you can't scream that he isn't ballanced?
Ragnaveil3 votesUh, because your idea of "removing E and R, then look at the kit" legit makes no sense. Any champ that doesnt have a complete kit is going to be bad. He needs nerfs, but not massive gutting ones that people tried suggesting. R gold should scale with rank, and ignite should reveal him in W stealth.
DamSonWhUFndThis1 votesI didn't remove E and R you are delusional I removed long stun and now it's short stun and got rid of the gold but he still ults you
Ragnaveil1 votesI mean, you do that change and he's probably gonna be useless, no joke. Also...
If you think
That isn't suggesting changes, that's saying "oh, if we removed/didn't consider these two things, would you still think hes strong?"
DamSonWhUFndThis1 votesomg you found out what is this post about, wp sherlock but some people would say that he is still strong trust me, I'm saying he is ballanced but you know people..
Ragnaveil2 votesHe is strong, the fuck? You act like him right now is currently balanced.
DamSonWhUFndThis1 voteshe is ballanced
Ragnaveil3 votes600 G from ulting and getting an assist. Right....Totally balanced.
DamSonWhUFndThis1 votescall me mad but I say it's ballanced because you can dodge it skillshot, every single and I mean every ability of his is a Skillshot and ulty is area effect
Why do I say this? If you... by... any means... dodge his Q and E.... not only he can't ult you but he also does 0 damage because you what??? dodge his attacks... yes.
(just an opinion though not posting threads for riot to not nerf him I'm fine if they nerf him I just don't care cause I know and can play against him)
Divin1ty3 votesEveryone without a dash dies in his Ult. You can't outrun it. Also, hard to dodge something when u get AAed with Duskblade, hooked/slowed by Q again and then stunned. While also losing all ur HP. While also giving him 600g because fuck it, he is a support, needs more money :))
DamSonWhUFndThis1 votesfirst thing you can walk away from the ult - it's not mission impossible second thing hooked by his Q - that means you didn't dodge it so who's fault is that? riot making Pyke "strong" or not dodging the Q? you have minions to hide behind or space to walk to 3rd thing letting him walk up to you without ever punishing him sounds ridiculous to me also 4th thing dodging that 1 Q prevents Pyke from literaly doing any damage he would have to use his W or E to get to you but his Q damage is now on cooldown
You don't give him 600g he gives 600g to adc or the assisting I think ofc he still gets the kill gold but he has to land skillshots that you can dodge
DamSonWhUFndThis1 votes3/4ths? his ult damage stayed his e damage stayed his stun on e is not long his passive is same and you still w and get some mov speed
Hotarµ3 votes** Nobody understands what you're trying to say.**
When you say strong, are you talking about his performance (in terms of winrate) or his actual damage output? People rarely complain about his damage output and when they do, you can easily prove them wrong by showing them the statistic. Pyke doesn't do much damage on his own, it just seems that way because of the "9999" true damage appearing above people's heads.
DamSonWhUFndThis1 votesthan why even coment? this thread is for them not for you
Hotarµ4 votesBecause you're giving my champion and his players a bad name? You're lashing out at everyone instead of actually having a discussion, which is not something Pyke or the Boards need.
I suggest you just take a step back, cool off, and come back later to make a constructive post rather than spamming downvotes and rude comments.
DamSonWhUFndThis1 votesbruh are you trying to sound smart? what are you even talking about? I want people (that think Pyke does lot of damage) explain why he is op in their eyes, I'm not saying that you are or that you should look at him as op character Pyke is perfectly ballanced and people are trash How exactly am I giving him bad name? when someone argues about pyke they say the things I seperated and add the rest of his kit so I seperated it so they can't cry in the comments (already tried before with more explenation that he is just like other champs and that you should dodge hum duh but didn't quite catch the smart people like you)
ThıghConnoısseur2 voteswow pyke will be bad after we remove more than half of his strength who would have thought
DamSonWhUFndThis1 votesmore than half of his streangth? I removed his long cc so he must have short cc now and the golds he still does damage, duh...
ThıghConnoısseur2 voteswhat are you talking about lol
Yes because none of pykes strength come from gold or his mobilty, sure
DamSonWhUFndThis1 votesok than reverse psychology, give him insane mobility, the gold, but remove his damage
DamSonWhUFndThis1 votesso far you have proven me nothing gj
DamSonWhUFndThis1 votesso many people running from the truth
FOR JUSTICE1 votesim not sure what your train of thought here is? how does removing most of his kit's CC and mobility/safety prove hes balanced?
DamSonWhUFndThis1 votesyou tell me
FOR JUSTICE1 votesRiven is balanced because if you remove her w and e she cant beat you, so its just the players being dumb.
kled is balanced because if you remove his remount and w passive he cant duel, so its just players being outskilled.
thats how this post sounds.