Why is Kayle allowed to be this good?

Wolfram Oxford·Aug 21, 2016·7 votes·1,824 views

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She is destroying solo queue, and nothing is being done about it. She offers more damage than any other champion in the game and can't be killed late game. I thought the whole weakness of hyper carries is being able to be killed easily, but her kit makes it so she has both damage and high survivability even without a team.

I suggest reducing her ultimate duration to 0.5 seconds, removing her movement speed buff, and make it so her slow decays. This should help until Riot finds a way to make her a healthy champion to play against.

9 Comments

Fucking ShitAug 21, 20166 votes

Ok you arent allowed to post on the boards anymore.

leg fetishAug 21, 20163 votes

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Ok you arent allowed to post on the boards anymore.

I love it

bleufromageAug 21, 20162 votes

the average amount of games that the people who play her is over 100 games. They know how to play her and thats why they win. Go try and play 100 games on a single champion. It takes a long time to play that many games on a champ and im sure you learn the ins and outs of them.

DreadlocksAug 22, 20162 votes

I don't really agree with ur suggestions but, i do agree that she is really strong. I actually ban her every game now cuz when ever i have to fight one, she single handily controls the late game with her AoE DPS + ult.

YSeT9iEzJKAug 22, 20162 votes

I love the people who downvote this thread even though its 100% correct.

She is strong, very strong.

She has such a disturbing kit. When shes strong, she is strong.

Make it so she can only cast her ult on herself.

This will make her more balanced.

SithesisLordAug 22, 20161 votes

She's """"""""""""""""strong""""""""""""""""

Play rate and ban rate are nearly non-existent. Next people will ask for Lissandra nerfs simply because she's doing well.

Kayle is only strong due to two factors.

Fervor of Battle Guinsoo's Rageblade

And both only allow her to be slightly viable.

When she's strong, it´s because the items she uses are strong. When she's weak, it´s because the items she uses are also weak. Nashor's tooth giving 50% AS, 20% CDR, 80 AP and on-hit magic damage that scales off of a little AP, for 3k gold, considering she's a champion who doesn´t need kills, but rather a lot of CS to snowball is perfect.

The low play and ban rates justify her high winrate, however, they do not justify any sort of changes to her. She HAS to build squishy in order to do a lot of damage. The only mildly defensive item she buys is a Guardian Angel.

colesyAug 21, 20161 votes

she's not destroying solo queue, pretty much nobody plays her.

specter424Aug 21, 20161 votes

i advise people to pick this cancer against gp and you will make them want to jump off a bridge

SithesisLordAug 22, 20161 votes

She is destroying solo queue

Play Rate: 2.47% Ban Rate: 1.12%

nothing is being done about it.

Because nothing needs to be done about it. She hops in and out of the first place every few patches.

She offers more damage than any other champion in the game

She's on par with other marksmen, which is the class she belongs to.

and can't be killed late game.

She can. Because squishy plus her ult is not just for her.

I thought the whole weakness of hyper carries is being able to be killed easily

It is. And Kayle is easy to kill early on. Late game, only if you have someone who can reach her easily. Which, surprise surprise, also applies to ever other marksmen.

but her kit makes it so she has both damage and high survivability even without a team.

Damage and survivability she only gets after three items.

I suggest reducing her ultimate duration to 0.5 seconds

Good job, you just killed Kayle.

removing her movement speed buff

Now she can´t catch up to people, but hey at least she's got a decent health bar now, right?

make it so her slow decays

Her slow isn´t even felt unless she maxes it.

This should help until Riot finds a way to make her a healthy champion to play against.

Unless a Rioter from the balancing department comes and says she is an unhealthy champion in the team's eyes, then she is one and will certainly be taken care of. Until that happens, this argument on her health or lack thereof is completely subjective.

She is allowed to be that good because:

The people playing her are her actual mains and thus, allow her win rate to spike. No one is banning her, which also allows her win rate to spike. Most don´t play her because in their eyes, she's boring and easy, which is subjective. She's like Yi and many others deemed easy and boring. Mechanically, yes, they most certainly are boring and easy, but they involve other details of a match, details that, if not paid attention to, make them incredibly hard to play.

Can´t kite? Sorry, bud, you won´t be playing Kayle all the way to Diamond so soon, which is also the case for other Marksmen.

The one nerf she would receive was reverted because Riot saw how massive it was. And how it would outright kill her.