Between autofill and everyone fighting over autofill/trolls its just not fun to play right now. I report someone at least one person a game now. I don't encounter positive in game experiences. Asking my allies for assistance is asking to be ignored or flamed. I don't like winning/losing games over "which team has the tilted feeder".
I don't think its all over for League or anything but Im starting to entertain being done with the game.
Ben SwoIo32 votesMy League gaming has significantly dropped. Played one today after like 5 days. Felt no desire to play either, just decided to hop on for shits n giggles before bed. After the match, there was nothing I missed about the game. Opposing team flaming, champs getting out of control and just dominating, overall feel of unbalance. Same old shit. Game just felt meh. Made me realize why I haven't been playing lately and have been sticking to Doom or Fallout. I actually enjoy those games (among others) and don't get all "ragey" or angry.
Elikain1 votesWhat's to rage about Doom or Fallout exactly? Are those games even multiplayer?
How can i get angry replaying Serious Sam? I can only be_** serious**_ when playing that game.
Leetri2 votesDoom has multiplayer. And Fallout 4 can be pretty ragey if you play on higher difficulties where getting hit by a single molotov will instantly kill you even at full HP and with super good armour. You get like 0.01 seconds to react before it explodes and the AI has pinpoint accuracy with the throws. And on top of all that, in Survival mode you can't even save where you want, you have to sleep in a bed to save, meaning you will have to replay 30+ minute segments every single time the AI decides to throw a molotov.
Toxic Main Riven13 votesI agree, since the Juggernaut update things have been going downhill. Autofill, dynamic queue,tanks one shooting carries, Lethality...
Keevalroy20 votes[{quoted}](name=Toxic Main Riven,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QmEkhBsd,comment-id=0005,timestamp=2017-02-25T07:00:49.738+0000)
I agree, since the Juggernaut update things have been going downhill. Autofill, dynamic queue,tanks one shooting carries, Lethality...
Keystones, class overhauls that brought failed reworks, broken and or unnessesary items, lazy balance and obvious favoritism still going on, mobility creep continuing to get worse...
Edit: Also why the hell are you getting downvoted and I'm getting upvoted when I'm just adding onto your list?
Mira Arya Enthe1 votesRiven player, it's a reflex people have
Report Me Again2 votesI upvoted, SMASH THE SYSTEM!
A Violet Raven1 votesDamn, I'm not the only one that thinks the Juggernaut update was the start of a lot of bad stuff? Add in the Fiora update that passed by around that time and we saw nothing but darius and fiora toplane that year on worlds.
On a sidenote - more aimed at the actual post: I stopped playing a few months ago which I consider unfortunate. Around late season 3/early season 4 this game to me was in its best state. I won't claim that things like Feral Flare were stagnating on their own, but it seemed to be fixed faster, almost everything seemed to be in a playable state and the game was both a lot more enjoyable and there was less toxicity. I can't say I miss the game in its current state though.
Also towers. Towers weren't made of paper and they didn't shoot with a force made of plushies.
3TWarrior1 votesI thought the marksman update was what really started it all
they didn't do anything they promised, only really changed 3 or 4 champs, did not listen to player feedback for multiple patches about keystone masteries being overpowered on AD characters, nerfed champions that had no business being nerfed when they mainly had a high win rate because they countered the currently overpowered builds
and that was only patch 1 of the actual season
Skias12 votesMost games I played are completely 1 sided. Either we are stomping the enemy so hard they can't do anything or we've got someone so far behind we are just waiting for 20. I also had an afk Vi support. I've been playing FFXIV waiting for Stormblood. It gets harder to convince myself to play league every game. I love playing Taric but I don't know.
I think Riot needs to decide if they want shorter games or quality games because it doesn't feel like their experiments to get both are working.
sheldonbunny10 votesUrf is only not fun because of the rager/ill mannered children coming out of the woodwork. I don't usually deal with them this frequently, even in other rotating modes. Seems like urf brings out the less desirables in droves.
metabuser1 votesHmm... I only found one toxic person out of the 6 games I played. The rest of us were having lots of fun. Maybe it's the elo your in.
Report Me Again2 votesElo in Aruf [zombie-brand-mindblown]
sheldonbunny1 votes[{quoted}](name=NickTheGreat PIE,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QmEkhBsd,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2017-02-25T17:31:53.785+0000)
Hmm... I only found one toxic person out of the 6 games I played. The rest of us were having lots of fun. Maybe it's the elo your in.
I typically play anywhere between bronze and platinum players in normals which more or less is carrying over for urf.
In all honesty, I think it's more urf brings out the younger crowd. I'm more accustomed to better behaved older players.
metabuser1 votesI agree, It does seem like they act a bit younger. Also, since the games are usually 20-ish minutes, there's more chances to get toxic/immature players.
sheldonbunny1 votes[{quoted}](name=NickTheGreat PIE,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QmEkhBsd,comment-id=0004000000010000,timestamp=2017-02-26T21:45:03.775+0000)
I agree, It does seem like they act a bit younger. Also, since the games are usually 20-ish minutes, there's more chances to get toxic/immature players.
It could certainly be the case. Thankfully the rest of the weekend went much better. It does seem if I play in the middle of the night I get the more mellow crowd.
Saianna9 votes"right now" my ass. It stopped being fun long time ago.
Elikain2 votesHave you entertained the notion that it might be you who's not into League anymore? It's really easy to blame your lack of fun on League because having fun is subjective feeling. I certainly don't have the same type of fun i had 7 years ago. I value different things when i play now than i did in the past. So my definition of having fun has changed a lot.
Blåbæret10 votesHave you entertained the notion that it might be you who's not into League anymore? It's really easy to blame your lack of fun on League because having fun is subjective feeling. I certainly don't have the same type of fun i had 7 years ago. I value different things when i play now than i did in the past. So my definition of having fun has changed a lot.
The game is objectively in one of the worst states it's ever been. It's completely imbalanced.
Elikain1 votesThe game is objectively in one of the worst states it's ever been. It's completely imbalanced.
That's so subjective. Because people have been saying the exact same thing when DQ was here. And before that, about Marksmen getting changes. And after that, after the Mage Update... take your pick. Whenever a change comes to League, it's inevitable that someone's going to use the "this is the worst state" argument.
It really isn't. Considering that this is the patch where Riot tuned every damage mastery down by half and nerfed Lethality, hotfixed the EoN and nerfed champions that were top tier picks pro picks for weeks. If anything, Riot has done everything we were crying about so what's the problem? If you can complain when they've done exactly what we wanted, than that means you're never happy about the state of the game.
Blåbæret2 votesThat's so subjective. Because people have been saying the exact same thing when DQ was here. And before that, about Marksmen getting changes. And after that, after the Mage Update... take your pick. Whenever a change comes to League, it's inevitable that someone's going to use the "this is the worst state" argument.
Lmao what? Not even close. Those were minor complaints, doesn't compare to the current situation where 2/3 of the jungle rooster isn't viable, full AD lethality teams, Colossus abusers, a myriad of inherently broken champs and the list goes on. Are you one of those subjectivity followers? Because if that's the case then you might as well stop discussing anything at all :)
Elikain2 votesThose were minor complaints,
All i've been hearing about DQ in particular, in regards to S6, is that is was a complete joke of a season in terms of competitive integrity. The boards, reddit and a few other social media sites were literally a dumpster fire for months. Again, that's what subjective means. You say it was a minor inconvenience, other people say it was a farce. It's a "he said, she said" argument. I personally didn't care, i went to D4 in S6 as a solo player. DQ didn't bother me one bit.
full AD lethality teams
If Lethality, that was meant for AD casters, is being used by said champions (assassins and caster marksmen) and those team comps work, do you have an issue with their viability? Sounds like you're trying to pass "i don't like it" as "it's broken". Where were you when Ziggs was being played instead of a marksman bot? All i heard on the boards is how Riot shouldn't touch Ziggs because he was the "natural" meta shift - he was so unique... Malzahar, MF supports? Any complaints about those meta shifts? Zed, MF, Talon weren't even a thing before Lethality. If these items synergize with their gameplay perfectly, that's was the point of Lethality in the first place.
I'd have a problem with Lethality if champions that were not meant to buy those items, suddenly become viable while going completely against their intented itemization - like tanks, mages or even supports. Since that isn't happening, it's fine.
It's come to a point where Lethality is in a good spot and nerfing it any more would destroy it. The other side of the balance discussion is what does Lethality do better that crit doesn't? Crit now needs to be looked at and possibly buffed to compete with Lethality, in order for the rest of the Marksmen roster to be viable again.
Colossus abusers
CotC was already been nerfed, a few patches ago. Champions that "abused" it are no longer top tier picks. Maokai and Naut are its intended users and both are viable, where Maokai has been nerfed because he's too much of a generalist tank for the top lane. Colossus isn't the major thing that makes him good. In the absence of Colossus, Grasp is back for those other top laners. Bruisers can now use Fervor.
** myriad of** inherently broken champs
I'm not going to to bother with any vague arguments. Some examples are required so that the other side can understand what you consider under that category.
Are you one of those subjectivity followers?
Gotta love those labels. Because if i'm not, then i'm a Riot sympathizer or their white knight. God forbid that i actually see logic in how they balance things and what's the reason behind those changes. Around these parts, the default attitude is to be against Riot. Some people have a few labels and if someone disagrees with them or challenges their points, they'll quickly label you and give themselves a perfect excuse to not bother providing a counter argument, in order to preserve the illusion of being right.
IgnisImperatrix1 votesHow long have you been playing? I've been playing since season 3 and you are WRONG.
Elikain1 votesI've been playing since beta. Do tell me why i am wrong.
IgnisImperatrix1 votesOh sorry, I meant about RANKED specifically. The rest of the game is alright.
Elikain1 votesIf we're talking about ranked, i took an interest in it in mid S4. That's where i got interested in solo queue and pro scene in general. What's that about ranked that doesn't seem right, if you don't mind elaborating?
MFTORANK18 votesYesterday I had one of my best game ever, me(
) vs. 
1v1 fighting for about 30 minutes without ganks that game was so intense and so fun.
Sraeg201312 votesYou're in luck.
When I get top I'm getting ganked every other minute beginning at level 2.
ScissorsNstuff7 votesguess I missed all that unfun while I was busy having a blast. Urf's up kowabunga bro!
http://31.media.tumblr.com/29df3d40d95deb07655383c4a2dda645/tumblr_mrqwc9myun1ro8ysbo1_500.gif
PhDs Nuts9 votesguess I missed all that unfun while I was busy having a blast. Urf's up kowabunga bro!
http://31.media.tumblr.com/29df3d40d95deb07655383c4a2dda645/tumblr_mrqwc9myun1ro8ysbo1_500.gif
ARURF is shit, too. Between the lethality champs (
) and Fiora it's just ARAM x 100 based on luck.
metabuser4 votesARURF isn't about winning, it's about dicking around. Lighten up a bit and enjoy how halariously broken these champs are. Even if you are getting rekt.
Report Me Again2 votesSeems the developers forgot to include that memo in the path notes because every game I get into is one of two things, my team flaming me for not having broken champs or playing champs I don't know well, or the enemy team bragging about how good they are at URF mode. You do not introduce fun into a toxic community without it being tainted. Urf is too pure for League
Lux Tizer7 votesI'd say the only reason the playerbase it currently has is still here is between a mix of addiction and an abusive relationship you're praying will get better. How do I know that? This is a new account I just made. probably 8/10 people I played with since level 1 were permabanned smurfs. They're the absolute fucking worst.
Report Me Again2 votesRiot needs to invest in IP banning, saying this as a permabanned account holder but that is neither here nor there. PERMA should not mean "This account is banned" it should mean this Player is banned. Of course you can dupe IP but its a more involved process than most flavor of the month trolls will invest into, at least if you're going to allow abusive trolls back into the game make them work for it.
PaladinNO6 votesHah! This game hasn't been fun since season 3!
Sahn Uzal2 votesThen why are you still playing it?
PaladinNO11 votesBecause I switched to the map that is the last refuge of fun in this game: Howling Abyss.
Also, there are more of these threads. http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/E2bssWrA-this-game-just-is-not-good-anymore
Seemingly other veteran players seem to think the same, but who am I to judge. I can only speak for myself, and my personal opinion is that this game hasn't been much fun since season 3.
And downvoting over an opinion is just pathetic.
But to answer your question, I only play until I get the first win of the day IP bonus (not that I need it). Which often means just an AI game. My active days are long gone; now it's just a little virtual socializing that remains.
Sahn Uzal2 votesNow that's an actual answer. That's way more than I expected, and usually get from people who say ''this game sucks now'' and then you look at their profile and they're still playing very activly.
Elikain4 votesAsking veteran players, like me (i've been playing this game for 7+ years) makes no sense. Playing something for this long in 99% of the cases guarantees that the fun factor and the passion when we first started playing this game are long gone.
Ask any oldschool WoW player and he'd tell you the same. We have simply experienced long ago what League had to offer and now don't get the same excitement when those patches hit. For us, the game is barely moving with its patches because there aren't enough systematic changes that provide completely different experiences. League has remained what it was 7 years ago. If anything, those times were far simpler than what we have to deal with now. But League has evolved because its playerbase also evolved.
It's not like you don't have the capacity to enjoy a League anymore. You've become so fatigued because you've practically have been living and breathing League for years. So a change of scenery (or a game) may be exactly what you need. I found that in HotS, despite me saying year or two ago that's it's just a blander and a simpler mix of League copy-pasta.
GhaelWinds1 votesExactly how I think about it. Becsuse I personally am so primed for this season especially. I'd call this one the most fun for me actually. I started S4 I think so this is like my prime time of enjoyment.
Elikain1 votesI don't really believe that League is dead or that its last light is dimming. Some people burn out quickly and some people can last quite a while. Yea, i get that people complain about the current state of affairs from time to time but let's be real - League had the exact same problems in the good ol' days.
I'm glad that you're enjoying it. Don't concern yourself with trolls because every game that's multiplayer oriented and has a competitive side has them. Just play and make it fun for yourself and play ranked to really get to tryhard for your own benefit. :)
In the end, even players like me still get to enjoy League. Burning out on something happens to everyone, the point is to find that point and keep yourself spread about multiple things (games) that can add variety. This doesn't have to be a new game in general, this is why Riot has RGM queues and ARAM. It may need something more permanent as a valid replacement (new map or mode maybe?) but those projects are a really big deal.
Keevalroy1 votesAsk any oldschool WoW player and he'd tell you the same.
This oldschool WoW player will not... The fun factor, the passion, and the excitement died not when we changed, but when Blizzard ruined the game. I didn't change, the game did. Why am I, as well as hundreds of thousands of other players still enjoying the content Blizzard provided when they weren't blinded by greed and arrogance on vanilla servers if according to you, "any one of us would tell him our passion is gone?"
Likewise, I'm not fatigued by Riot's decisions and direction, I'm fucking furious at their stupidity and prideful indignation that they're finally, after three years recognizing as a problem for their company currently.
Elikain1 votesWhy am I, as well as hundreds of thousands of other players still enjoying the content Blizzard provided when they weren't blinded by greed and arrogance on vanilla servers
The key key word here is vanilla. That's a nostalgia. And in my opinion, these servers are holding the games back because they allow the players to live in the past, "when everything used to be good".
Keevalroy1 votesOh of course it's nostalgia to you; anything that is added to the game improves it right? It's progress right? Even when it's so unfathomably stupid and poorly planned that it causes a hard drop in the population numbering in the millions like the Cataclysm expansion? Oh, but those people were just too resistant to change and refused to adapt to how great the game was getting huh? It can't possibly be that Blizzard had no idea what their playerbase wanted and refused to admit it - hmm, kinda like Riot...until recently anyway.
And to suggest they're holding the game back... you can fuck right off and quit your incessant boot licking. Servers like these demonstrate what a large portion of the past players want - a return to a time where things made sense, a time where Blizzard cared about the game and those who played it, not continuous nonsensical changes that drove the population down to the point that they stopped releasing their stats out of embarrassment.
How fucking dare you assume this is all nostalgia? How dare you mock the people want the previous versions of League to return by calling it a nostalgic recollection? Maybe, just maybe, every previous season of League wasn't as bad as whatever the current one is at the time not because it's nostalgia, or because we have selective memories, or even because we're "living in the past" and forgot about issues in the game at the time pretending that they weren't as bad as the issues nowadays. Maybe instead, it's that the game continues to progressively get worse and worse over time due to the same type of asinine changes that Blizzard made with WoW, and comparatively, the problems in previous seasons aren't all that bad after all.
Contrary to possible belief, I really don't mind change, but only when it's clearly thought-out, communicated, and if there's pushback over whatever change or introduction appears, instead of having devs covering their eyes and plugging their ears shouting down critics like a bunch of defensive egotists (or presidents apparently,) they actually have two-way conversations about the concerns, and take appropriate action when necessary...not pushing the addition through anyway regardless of concerns or feedback. And if you want to regurgitate the same "W-w-well it's their game and they can do what they want!" bullshit defense, then you should suggest to them that they at least have the decency to change their manifesto to reflect that they don't strive to be the most player focused company in the games industry.
Roady19901 votesEh, that is more gametime than I put into it.
I played quite a bit back in Season 1, sometimes with friends, sometimes not, but I had my fun and could get past the flamers enough to enjoy the game.
I could run around and enjoy my time having ganks fail while they follow my 
Singed. Things were cool, and there weren't so many champions that I got lost in what my opponents could do.
Flash forward a bunch and... I'm having a lot less fun. Playing less made me less good with my singed, there's a ton of chars I don't know, and the ones I do know have been changed a lot. And none of the item builds I knew work because the items have been replaced or removed or changed. Playing worse of course made the flaming get worse. But there were still some people I could play with, and with them it wasn't too bad.
Now though? I just can't play anymore. The meta is now horribly strict compared to what I knew. There's EVEN MORE champions I don't know. The items have changed and warped YET AGAIN. And the flaming is still at least as horrible as it always was.
JerulEon3 votesIt feels so just.... off. Wrong. Unbalanced. The flame never bothered me too much from the start. The biggest issue for me is that the gameplay doesn't reward different play styles like it used to. Now the main strategy is to brute force overpower the enemy. The jungler has so much influence over the map. Lethality is stupid powerful. Learning other champs is extra painful because it's just a stomp fest most of the time. I've never stopped playing League unless it was because of other life duties but now I have no desire to play.
rtbf2256182413 votesTo me, it's more about the absolute lack of variety and short as shit teamfights. Barely any strategy or outplaying involved.
