I was playing vayne and

weeaboomer·Feb 20, 2016·2 votes·414 views

Out scaled me...

the lane bully.... who's strong early....k

5 Comments

PhantomGGFeb 20, 20161 votes

Lucian and graves are suppose to be your counters though

weeaboomerFeb 20, 20161 votes

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Lucian and graves are suppose to be your counters though

and? Early game right? and this isn't even just about vayne. Why is this lane bully scaling so good mid and late? Looks like people downvote everytime they see vayne cause hate.

PhantomGGFeb 20, 20161 votes

You are not being downvoted because of vayne hate, you are being downvoted for what I said is legit true.

Lucian and Graves are what you call "caster, burst adcs"

They counter you at ALL points of the game for they can dash toward you and nuke you at any point through a full combo rotation.

weeaboomerFeb 20, 20161 votes

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You are not being downvoted because of vayne hate, you are being downvoted for what I said is legit true.

Lucian and Graves are what you call "caster, burst adcs"

They counter you at ALL points of the game for they can dash toward you and nuke you at any point through a full combo rotation.

Applying to all ADCs..... If he can do that to this "duelist" known as vayne, I don't see what's stopping him from doing it to other ads a hell of a lot more easier. For a lane bully whos that strong early, it's a bit ridiculous.

PhantomGGFeb 20, 20161 votes

The reason why it does not apply to all adcs

Tristana-with her Ult and rocket jump she has ways to avoid the full combo and out play lucian and graves, she can stall time for herself to make her autos more relevant then the casting

Ashe-Has a stun to interupt the combo while she then harrasses you with Q barrage

Kalista-can dodge through passive, if support is near by can pull him to her aid with ult

Varus-his ultimate and toolkit can allow him to kite away

Caitlyn-Her long range normally makes it impossible to combo her, for she is to far for the combo to even hit her

Corci-Is also a burst caster adc, so he has options to out play the two you listed

Quinn- Can blind and harrass

Draven-Can interrupt then Q burst

Urgot-If you count him as a adc, can block the damage with his shield and ultimate

Ezreal-is also a caster adc, so same thing as corici, will struggle during lane phase but will be fine in team phase

People graves/lucian are suppose to be effictive against

Vayne, twitch, jhin, miss fortune, kogmaw, jinx

Graves/lucian are suppose to be the answer to super late game hyper carries for they have the combo rotation to burst them away from the fight or just straight up kill them.

TLDR-counter picks don't break the game, it keeps it in check