How to balance Sated Devourer.

Stella Ex Amore·Aug 4, 2015·2 votes·910 views

I like this item, I'm not against it being in the game. However I think if there is a high reward there should also be high risk paired with it. Please post your thoughts below.

"While stacking Sated Devourer, you are accompanied by a Ghost Dog who will grow with Devourer stack. At 30 stacks, the Ghost Dog merges with the wielder and Devourer transforms into Sated Devourer. If the wielder dies while Sated Devourer is active, they will lose half of their previous stacks."

13 Comments

ErockandrollAug 4, 20153 votes

And you realize that completely goes against the idea of Becoming Sated in the first place. We made AS Jungler Sated, so they would STOP AFK farming, at some point.

EcchiOtakuTMNov 20, 20151 votes

That about sums it up, only way to really help curve sated is reducing the AS OR lower the AS and gain more AS in combat per hit.

Gordo SanAug 4, 20152 votes

This is interesting.

I would have it the opposite though.

While stacking Devourer, if you are killed you lose stacks.

That way the team will make an effort to try and stop the jungler early. And the jungler will have to be more careful in balancing farming vs. early ganks.

Stella Ex AmoreAug 4, 20151 votes

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This is interesting.

I would have it the opposite though.

While stacking Devourer, if you are killed you lose stacks.

That way the team will make an effort to try and stop the jungler early. And the jungler will have to be more careful in balancing farming vs. early ganks.

I like that idea as well.

JbelsAug 4, 20152 votes

[{quoted}](name=Gordo San,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=QTmZKwKU,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-08-04T11:07:11.326+0000)

This is interesting.

I would have it the opposite though.

While stacking Devourer, if you are killed you lose stacks.

That way the team will make an effort to try and stop the jungler early. And the jungler will have to be more careful in balancing farming vs. early ganks.

If Devourer stacks are lost on Death, you will never see your jungler gank until he has 30

Gordo SanAug 4, 20151 votes

Well it's the same way now. Devourer junglers try not to gank until they reach 30 stacks.

At least this way, it offers some counter play (lanes to actually move into the jungle, instead of sitting in lane).

We might actually begin to see laners GANK for the jungler, instead of the other way around.

EndlessSorcererNov 20, 20151 votes

Bad Devourer junglers don't gank until they have 30 stacks, but that's because they aren't good junglers.

Proficient junglers know how to gank and apply pressure as their champion even if they have Devourer.

SasogwaAug 4, 20152 votes

The Dog no longer dies and accompanies you in your adventures.

That seems a better change to me. Anyway, thornmail change indirectly nerfs sated devourer.

EcchiOtakuTMNov 20, 20151 votes

The dog lives on in your heart! DO NOT TARNISH ITS MEMORIES!!!! :c

JamareeAug 4, 20151 votes

That idea wouldn't balance it, it would make it trash honestly because the moment you get Sated, the opponent's will just kill you and force you to keep farming and thus deny your team more help they need.

Stella Ex AmoreAug 4, 20151 votes

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That idea wouldn't balance it, it would make it trash honestly because the moment you get Sated, the opponent's will just kill you and force you to keep farming and thus deny your team more help they need.

That's what I'm talking about, "...opponent's will just kill you and force you to keep farming and thus deny your team more help they need." You're implying by your statement that Sated Devourer is what helps the team, not the jungler. That the jungler will be forced to go back to farming to become viable for the team again. Too much emphasis has been put on the jungler gaining Sated Devourer rather than the jungler itself.

JamareeAug 4, 20151 votes

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That's what I'm talking about, "...opponent's will just kill you and force you to keep farming and thus deny your team more help they need." You're implying by your statement that Sated Devourer is what helps the team, not the jungler. That the jungler will be forced to go back to farming to become viable for the team again. Too much emphasis has been put on the jungler gaining Sated Devourer rather than the jungler itself.

Well this just pushes the premise even further because then they are going to continue to play for themselves after a death.

evankNov 20, 20151 votes

I say remove sated devourer and bring back feral flare, but do what devourer does and give more stacks for a kill or assist. So that junglers will gank early to get the item stacked faster. Also reduce the hp back on hit to 5 scaling with stacks. Also when u have FF u gain 2 stacks for a kill and 2 for an assist like devourer so that u have don't have people afk farm the entire game.