Evelynn Engage problems.

Halodjin Tyr··2 votes·654 views

Can you make it so Evelynn slowely runs faster in the direction of her Marked target, based off their run speed bonus kind of like how Rengar runs faster towards his marked targets so I can actually engage champions like talon ? with her Invis target radius so large, and the 2 seconds I have to wait before Engaging with charm and so many items on physical champions (like zed/talon) that increase run speed to an amazing amount, it would be nice to be able to have something in my kit to catch them! their is no items like Bork, oritem 3142 make it exceedingly difficult to engage/peg them, I mean you made a whole list of amazing Assassin items only, and then you made it so evelynn can't benefit form any of them, unless you make a bunch of mage/assassin items to counter that I don't see this working.

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Calabok2 votes

no we cannot do that.

How about reducing her invisibility range?

Halodjin Tyr2 votes

honestly even if they reduced her invis range the problem would still be there because she has to be revealed for 2 seconds before she can engage, I mean seriously how is Evelynn going to engage Talon or Shaco, and Pegging Elise is going to be a little fun too, she used to have a 70% run speed button whats the difference ?

Halodjin Tyr1 votes

that and marking a Target with Charm removes your invisibility for the person you charmed.

La Bello1 votes

the whole point is that you USE your stealth to flank and enemy and pincer them with an ally. I've found that eve is still an amazing Ganker during the laning phase once she manages to hit 6.

now as fas as SOLO killing during the midgame and looking for picks on lone carries. this was completely INTENDED to give counterplay

Lust dust having the 1..5 second charge time for the disable was a premeditated design choice that has been present on nearly all assassins since the "assassin class update"

did you notice that Fizz has a 1.5 second Priming time on his W? Or how Akali had her burst moved to her SECOND auto attack? Katarina has to wait for her daggers to hit the ground before her true burst is available. Leblanc has the 1.5 second "mark" prime

In other words Riot is all about COUNTERPLAY! Riot does NOT want Old eve back where she would just instakill you out of stealth in 0.5 seconds . Riot has purposefully increased the kill window to offer a more fair chance when an assassin is ahead. 1.5-2 seconds is what Riot considers a fair window for an assassin to kill you in.

I think another thing you are forgetting is that IF Eve manages to get a large enough lead then she probably wont need to wait for the allure part!. Eve will simply open up with a E out of stealth( which deals bonus damage) into a hatespike rotation and ultimate. You do not actually have to wait for targets to be at 30% hp to kill them with ultimate. That is mainly just a tool for dealing with tanks ( if Ashe only has 500 HP left you dont need your ultimate to deal 1.3k damage ). Eve's ultimate actually has extremely good base values and you can honestly just use it when a target is on half HP . same as Veigar waiting for the execute threshold is very often overkill so you want to avoid that if you can and instead just try to calculate how much you can do in a full rotation guesstimate from your targets resist.

In other words I think you are just knee-jerk reacting to new Eve after like >5 games. As you begin to play her more you will understand that her kit is an excellent blend of fair to play against and much more skill based when it comes to maneuvering Evelynn effectively.New Evelynn feels great to play and finally has a much more thematic and unique kill pattern and style compared to other assassins! If a Champion is too dangerous to attempt alluring (such as another Assassin Talon/Zed/Kha'zix) then just SKIP that part and open with E then use W as way of punishing their hard committal !. In a pinch Lust Dust is also a defensive tool so long as you make sure not to activate it. If you open on the target with E then tag them with Lust dust you can get the charm off if they attempt to fight you back. This sets up for free damage or a escape or maybe even a turn kill.

all I can recommend is that you continue to play Evelyn until all the little tips and tricks with her kit snap and resonate with you. she JUST came out 2 days ago so keep at her then form another opinion after about a week or so.

Halodjin Tyr2 votes

I agree with everything you said, the issue is more Talon ults, or shaco clones, before I can even trade them.

La Bello1 votes

Well some champions just hard counter others.

Rengar can double Roar to full heal Zed's Burst but that doesn't necessarily mean either character is in the wrong. some kits kinda just naturally have the advantage over others.

Personally I feel Zed into Talon is completely one sided in Talons Favor but It's not like I'm gonna demand Riot make changes to Zed to make it easier.

Dope Solo1 votes

Its a fuckwits remake. Just keep playing the small premade meta.

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