Champion identities and Build paths

MrKatanaNinja·7/9/2016, 11:16:45 AM·2 votes·699 views

Here's the main just of things.

I honestly think that champions should have a role they play on a team, and most champions do so. My problem lies when I get a Garen in my ranked game who builds full AD and when 5 people, with an ADC, can't kill him. This is a problem

Why do i think this is annoying or out of place? League of legends is a competitive game with a casual base at heart. I am fine with people building full ad Garen . That's not my problem. The problem lies when the champ has built in tank so he can go full AD and still be tanky. There needs to be a line of "this person is squishy and full damage" or "This person is full tank but deals no damage". I am fine with the mid ground, the Olaf if you will. Olaf deals tons of damage, but can't take a whole lot because he either does 1000 damage and dies after 2 seconds, or deals 10 damage and dies after 2 hours. that is a good balance. he is tanky naturally but in order to deal damage he has to build damage based items. Where Garen lies is that "Bull****" stage. I rarely have fun playing against a Garen, because he builds black cleaver and just doesn't care about anyone else and just nukes someone. That is (in my opinion) unhealthy. Bruisers are meant to deal tons of damage if they get to you. But Garen has MOVEMENT SPEED ENHANCERS WOOOOO. So that's not a problem is it? if you cant tell, I'm annoyed. continuing on. Having flat damage reduction on a tank isn't a terrible idea. Whats a terrible idea is on the same champion, give them a decent AD scaling on both his E and Q. Woopty doo. Looks like we have some text book Bull**** right there. I'm not going to touch on his silence because in my opinion silence is the most annoying thing ever. specially on an AD Garen when he jumps on your butt and does 1000 damage in 3 spins. yeah, I was tank naut with 2 armor items plus my shield and that still did 1000 damage. WTF. Noone likes that. and hey, when i tried to turn back, his w stopped most of my damage which on a normal adc was 800 total combo damage with ult. i did 350 i think. something like that, i didnt do the math. I was to salty at this point. Im still salty hours later.

my Point is (or TL;DR) What needs to happen is make an off build for a champion less viable. Because AD Garen Is Bull****. thank you for your time. please, change garen. hes no fun to play as or against rn.

13 Comments

TehNACHO7/9/2016, 11:24:07 AM4 votes

So I checked out the game in question and noticed something funny, Garen never actually took that much damage from your team.

Damage Taken: Garen - 16.1k Nami - 13.7k Sivir - 26.2k Leblanc - 16.0k Udyr - 29.0k Ezreal - 20.4k Braum - 30.6k Riven - 21.3k Nautilus - 31.3k Jinx - 18.2k

In fact, of the 10 players in the game, he took the third least amount of damage. Wow, what a megatank he is, having survived all of your team's focus fire ehh? What a magnificent tank he is that he can survive that much damage right?

You need to face that this Garen either outplayed the shit out of you or your team just really fucking sucked. He didn't even do that much damage to be entirely frank. He is not some overwhelming force that both deals stupid amounts of damage while also being tanky while building squishy, he was just some middle of the road Garen that you're yelling at because of your stupid biases against Garen.

Thecampingrusher7/9/2016, 11:22:15 AM1 votes

Facts bro. Talk your shit!!!

ZT Xperimentor7/9/2016, 11:36:30 AM1 votes

On the flip side, several assassins can build full defensive items and still telefrag most champions with ease, and some still do.

yoshi27907/9/2016, 1:20:32 PM1 votes

Yes, Olaf is the perfect example...

And besides, Tanks are balanced. If the ADC can't kill them it's either because Rammus or because you can't kite. Tanks are able to survive the damage, that's their thing.

And ofcourse they still deal damage, they have base damages too. But if you can kite there should be no problem.