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Julybabo14··10 votes·7,038 views

There was always this hate boner for tank champions and i really don't understand this because there are champions way WAY more toxic than tank. A tank is usualy someone who has big survivability, by not doing a lot of stuff so they can focus on other things, but the thing is with skill or not there are champions with way more survivability than tanks and those being LITERALY EVERYONE ELSE IN THE GAME, ok that is untrue considering i generalised this ofc there are exceptions, but wile top tier adc's have TONS of moving and escaping abilities and healing, bruisers literaly doing the almost the same thing from a close range and mages poping everyone like fucking baloons wile also having survivability makes me question, why do people bash on tanks when they are at the power, there is constant compliain everywhere when you have to spend more than 2 seconds poping a tank and its bothering me very much, dont get me wrong,this is not me trying to defend opinions or me just calling out the comunity for not liking my tastes, this is my asking why is everyone so hypocritical,mages are constantly at the power no one seems to be bothered except some streamers, assasins are at the power i see some people bothered, adc's are at the power no one is bothered (not to mention everyone will cry when adc's will be bottom tier wile tanks are so unviable for so long), but when tanks are at the power well everything is in pain and suffering, fire and death everywhere armageddon on earth, literaly everywhere i look everyone cries that the respective tank just takes more to be beaten, again im not saying this is good or bad but everyone has its time on the meta, just stop fucking crying about it as i am constantly desperately holding myself not to write a fucking book about why mages are busted and has to be nerfed to the ground just like everyone has been. and you know what is funny?people consider not killing someone more toxic than getting poped like a fucking balloon and literaly not being able to do anything about Zoe Zed Vayne , if you think oh thats just zed being zed or thinking that does this guy not know what how much shit zoe got when she got released, they've been gutted to the ground and still are toxic and cancerous.(also why is vayne allowed to have a a tumble every 2 seconds wile also getting good ad rations wile also getting % health true dmg? sigh...

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The thigh guy3 votes

Because people don’t like tanks for some Reason. I don’t get it. Tanks are healthy for the game.

Wrong place to ask though. The boards is FILLED with almost exclusively mage mains who don’t post but down vote shit, bruiser mains who do nothing but cry that their already broken af items are good enough, and assassin mains who are quiet right now because tanks are in the shitter and they insta gib everything.

KesEmakk2 votes

May I ask you, what season did you start playing league exactly?

The thigh guy2 votes

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May I ask you, what season did you start playing league exactly?

The tank meta wasn’t a thing. And if you think it was why weren’t you playing…… ahem.

Vayne Kog Fiora Yi Darius Olaf Lucien Cassiopia Renekton Mantheon Ryze Aatrox Swain Twitch Tryndaspin Varus Yasuo Riven Or building any of the over abundant anti tank items.

KesEmakk6 votes

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The tank meta wasn’t a thing. And if you think it was why weren’t you playing…… ahem.

Vayne Kog Fiora Yi Darius Olaf Lucien Cassiopia Renekton Mantheon Ryze Aatrox Swain Twitch Tryndaspin Varus Yasuo Riven Or building any of the over abundant anti tank items.

1- The tank meta was when tanks were able to deal damage more than they should. Tank Ekko was a thing due to that too. 2- I main Vel'Koz and he happens to be decent against tanks due to true damage but even that wasn't much enough to deal with tank meta. The Maokai match still fuckin haunts me. 3- I'm asking Julybabo14. Not you. So bugger off.

The thigh guy1 votes

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1- The tank meta was when tanks were able to deal damage more than they should. Tank Ekko was a thing due to that too. 2- I main Vel'Koz and he happens to be decent against tanks due to true damage but even that wasn't much enough to deal with tank meta. The Maokai match still fuckin haunts me. 3- I'm asking Julybabo14. Not you. So bugger off.

  1. Tank Ekko abused triforce. Which isn’t even a fucking tank item.
  2. Okay? Cool. Good for you? Void staff and true damage proc made tanks entirely irrelevant.
  3. Welcome to the board where ANYONE can reply to anything. Get over yourself.
KesEmakk4 votes

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  1. Tank Ekko abused triforce. Which isn’t even a fucking tank item.
  2. Okay? Cool. Good for you? Void staff and true damage proc made tanks entirely irrelevant.
  3. Welcome to the board where ANYONE can reply to anything. Get over yourself.

You obviously haven't experienced the full season 5 horrors. Even with fuckin void staff it was worthless.

I remember this shit all too well.

The thigh guy1 votes

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You obviously haven't experienced the full season 5 horrors. Even with fuckin void staff it was worthless.

I remember this shit all too well.

Except I did. And you know what I did? I played Vayne, ryze and mantheon.

KesEmakk2 votes

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Except I did. And you know what I did? I played Vayne, ryze and mantheon.

Funny because not even fuckin Vayne was able to deal with this shit.

Like I said. I remember this shit all too well.

The thigh guy1 votes

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Funny because not even fuckin Vayne was able to deal with this shit.

Like I said. I remember this shit all too well.

Except she did. Vayne crushed tanks then and always did. Bork - attackspeed made her auto kill tanks no matter what. Because Bork still had its 10% health stealing effect.

Saezio2 votes

BS. Tanks were all over the pro scene. If you deny this you are just turning a blind eye.

Assassins were irrelevant, bruisers were irrelevant, it was tank meta and ADCs were kings. Just go watch seasons 3-5 pro leagues and count tank top/jg compared to the other shit. Even rengar was building tank in pro.

Only reason other stuff might have been viable in your games is because low elo is always fiesta.

Daddy Ants1 votes

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  1. Tank Ekko abused triforce. Which isn’t even a fucking tank item.
  2. Okay? Cool. Good for you? Void staff and true damage proc made tanks entirely irrelevant.
  3. Welcome to the board where ANYONE can reply to anything. Get over yourself.

Tank Ekko didn't abuse Triforce.

He abused item 3068 item 3025 like every other "Tank".

Back in S6 Tank items were so over stat and anti tank was so under stat that even fed adc's couldn't take down a 2 item tank.

Season 6 tank meta in a nutshell was build item 3068 item 3025 or item 3065 item 3025 on literally any tank/bruiser/assassin and nothing short of Vayne or Kog'Maw had a chance at killing you.

Anu3isII1 votes

Not denying anything you said, but Ekko did abuse item 3078 , specifically after they nerfed item 3025 's damage. Not to the same degree, but he saw Pro Play with the new variation (alongside Fizz if I remember right).

TheSingularity2 votes

That isn't a tank meta. The tank meta was mid season 5 during the reign of cinderhulk tanks. That is the only tank meta we've ever had and was due to cinderhulk being overtuned and sejuani, after the other tanks had been slowly wittled down with nerfs over the years sitting at the top of the food chain.

The tank assassin meta was what you're describing, where we saw bruiser akali, fizz, ekko, yi and kha. This meta occured not because tanks/tank items were strong, but because these specific champions had such strong base damage values that they could get away with building half tank and output stupid dmg.

KesEmakk1 votes

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That isn't a tank meta. The tank meta was mid season 5 during the reign of cinderhulk tanks. That is the only tank meta we've ever had and was due to cinderhulk being overtuned and sejuani, after the other tanks had been slowly wittled down with nerfs over the years sitting at the top of the food chain.

The tank assassin meta was what you're describing, where we saw bruiser akali, fizz, ekko, yi and kha. This meta occured not because tanks/tank items were strong, but because these specific champions had such strong base damage values that they could get away with building half tank and output stupid dmg.

Ah I never said tank meta is now...I know it was mid season 5 maybe even the early season.

I hated that toxic season so much. How did riot even allow it to happen is fuckin beyond me.

Daddy Ants1 votes

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Ah I never said tank meta is now...I know it was mid season 5 maybe even the early season.

I hated that toxic season so much. How did riot even allow it to happen is fuckin beyond me.

With the direction the games been going recently I wouldn't be surprised if we end up in a Tank meta soon.

  • Rageblade got nerfed
  • Vayne got nerfed
  • Master Yi is getting nerfed
  • BoTRK had a cost increased.
  • Multiple tanks have been buffed this season (Maokai, Shen, Volibear, Nautilus, Leona, Sejuani, Amumu etc)
  • Cinderhulk was buffed
  • Conqueror got slapped with multiple nerfs this season
KesEmakk1 votes

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With the direction the games been going recently I wouldn't be surprised if we end up in a Tank meta soon.

  • Rageblade got nerfed
  • Vayne got nerfed
  • Master Yi is getting nerfed
  • BoTRK had a cost increased.
  • Multiple tanks have been buffed this season (Maokai, Shen, Volibear, Nautilus, Leona, Sejuani, Amumu etc)
  • Cinderhulk was buffed
  • Conqueror got slapped with multiple nerfs this season

Well I've recently got Nautilus. Might as well fight cancer with cancer.

If that's how low this game has become, then riot is just getting dumber and dumber.

Anu3isII1 votes

If you want to follow the trend, build him AP in mid with Aftershock. If tanks get annoying, item 3151 will always be helpful.

KesEmakk1 votes

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If you want to follow the trend, build him AP in mid with Aftershock. If tanks get annoying, item 3151 will always be helpful.

Aftershock is the obvious rune on Nautilus anyway.

But idk if either full tank or AP hybrid will be more effective. Going full AP is probably not a good idea unless his shield scales with AP or something.

Flashes1 votes

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With the direction the games been going recently I wouldn't be surprised if we end up in a Tank meta soon.

  • Rageblade got nerfed
  • Vayne got nerfed
  • Master Yi is getting nerfed
  • BoTRK had a cost increased.
  • Multiple tanks have been buffed this season (Maokai, Shen, Volibear, Nautilus, Leona, Sejuani, Amumu etc)
  • Cinderhulk was buffed
  • Conqueror got slapped with multiple nerfs this season

Ngl the only tank that's been doing well is Rammus, and to a lesser extent Amumu, in the Jungle thanks to the Cinderhulk buffs and the push of the Rift Scuttle.

Daddy Ants1 votes

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That isn't a tank meta. The tank meta was mid season 5 during the reign of cinderhulk tanks. That is the only tank meta we've ever had and was due to cinderhulk being overtuned and sejuani, after the other tanks had been slowly wittled down with nerfs over the years sitting at the top of the food chain.

The tank assassin meta was what you're describing, where we saw bruiser akali, fizz, ekko, yi and kha. This meta occured not because tanks/tank items were strong, but because these specific champions had such strong base damage values that they could get away with building half tank and output stupid dmg.

Not quite.

Season 6 and early S7 was 100% a tank meta.

Do you remember how batshit broken any tank with item 3068 item 3025 was?

SuperTopLFBottom1 votes

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That isn't a tank meta. The tank meta was mid season 5 during the reign of cinderhulk tanks. That is the only tank meta we've ever had and was due to cinderhulk being overtuned and sejuani, after the other tanks had been slowly wittled down with nerfs over the years sitting at the top of the food chain.

The tank assassin meta was what you're describing, where we saw bruiser akali, fizz, ekko, yi and kha. This meta occured not because tanks/tank items were strong, but because these specific champions had such strong base damage values that they could get away with building half tank and output stupid dmg.

Yeaaaah the only tank meta we had.

Except s6,s7, half of s8.

But s5 cinderhulk was definitely the only tank meta yup.

The amount of people rewriting history is actually insane when even s8 games looked like: ornn top. seju jungle, alistar supp, sion or galio mid and one hypercarry.

But there was no tank meta guys. There just happened to be tanks in 3-4/5 positions but that's not a tank meta.

Literally everyone build sunfire+iceborn gauntlet. Poppy, maokai, nautilus in s6 were kings. Fervor helped with that sure but it wasn't the only reason.

Also don'T forget the god forsaken adc rework that ruined the game until today even harder than the juggernaut patch.

FiveAneurysms1 votes

Triggeres tank Fizz PTSD*

KesEmakk1 votes

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Triggeres tank Fizz PTSD*

I experienced tank Ekko for the most part. Tank Fizz not so much. I'm not sure how cancer tank fizz was but I'm sure he's as problematic as tank Ekko.

Shen MD1 votes

In his/her op gg it says season 3

A Chaotic Mind2 votes

because they are braindead cancer. when they're meta it's awful playing toplane since you either play a braindead tank or the lane ends after the first back and nothing happens untill teamfights (which you are going to lose if you dont have a tank) out of lane they're simply unkillable so you can even cc chain them like you can with a fed assassin/adc/mage. they simply sit on your face and kill you with base damages. if you ever played adc vs a seju with cinderhulk thronmail and gromp smite buff you wouldn't ask this question tl;dr everyone hate playing vs tanks, everyone hate playing tanks so they should be viable in a support position and nothing else

Its All Skillzz2 votes

cause you get shit like this. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SJymxk9LqFc

iDarkWind2 votes

Because when they're meta they outplay you by standing still and doing more damage to you than you do to them by buying pure tank items. I remenber when the meta was item 3025 +item 3068 +item 3065 and they would run down anyone and eventually kill them while being immortal.

Everyday Legends1 votes

"When Tanks are strong, the game is uninteresting." This is the belief. While I don't necessarily agree with it, either, this mindset is the answer to the question.

TheSingularity1 votes

When tanks are problematic it isn't because they're too tanky. It's been that they're tanky while dealing too much damage. We saw this with ornn, naut and mao in top lane. Sejuani, gragas and zac in jg. Naut, ali and leo bot (during their respective rises to power). They're strong when they're meant to be, early-mid however they were too strong when they were meant to be. At this point they become similar to a yi or leblanc. They sit on you til u die, and u can't do shit to stop em. This coming from a long time tank main. And it pisses me off, because every time they buff fking tanks it's their dmg. Never their beef. Recently they removed CC and beef from I think sej? to give her more dmg. Naut? MOre E dmg. Tahm? more dmg. Amumu? more dmg

Zardo1 votes

just stop fucking crying about it as i am constantly desperately holding myself not to write a fucking book about why mages are busted and has to be nerfed to the ground just like everyone has been.\

Mages aren't even the most picked champions in their lane(just go to op.gg and sort by middle and pickrate). How are they disgustingly overpowered yet underplayed compare to assassins and bruisers mid? Mind you i'm not saying they're weak, i'm just saying they're not "busted".

Krytoric1 votes

its because when its a tank meta they're unkillable while killing anything thats not a tank in like 2 seconds. I have no issues with tanks, but when they start doing a shit ton of damage, thats when it becomes r%%%%%ed.

SuperTopLFBottom1 votes

Also the reason why people hate tanks is easy. Unlike mid or botlaners or even junglers toplaners have to lane against this garbage.

And tanks are the most r%%%%% proof class in the game. A gold 5 player picks malphite and instantly becomes a challenger toplaner.

And if you had to play against this shite you would agree as well. How this fuckin malphite literally eats every single of my GP Qs off cooldown, eats every single barrel+passive auto procc and just outsustain it press E and outtrades me after eating 50 fuckin Qs and barrels. Then he hits 6 presses R and sends me back to fountain or i manage to W at the last moment and flash out or i could even dodge it, it's not hard to dodge a malphite ult but then he Qs, turns on W and rightclicks you to death all while getting his item a thousand gold earlier than me. Now i was playing fuckin gangplank it would have been even more sad if i played like jax or another melee where i then have to expose myself in an all in i either lose anyways or just draws the jungler to me non stop but there is no hope other than snowballing on him because in this is where it gets funny BRUISERS ITEMS ARE FUCKIN GARBAGE no matter what R words here on the boards think. The only the ONE AND ONLY thing that makes bruiser items "good" is when you are snowballing other than that, garbage. But you can't snowball against braindead tanks standing still and outstatting you or simply just stonewall the lanephase because of their interaction button like maokai.

Tanks are a fuckin cancer to the game. They are boring to play as, they are fuckin toxic to play against and they are only good and played when overbuffed to the point they autowin lane and outscale you in teamfights. If they don't do that noone plays but then what's the point?

Just like how i get rewarded later on when losing lane on GP there needs to be a way to make tanks more fun to play AND rewarding when they do NOT autowin laning phase but as they currently are they are just braindead and boring and noone plays them. Even when they are absolutely fuckin broken only a few LP abuser and autofills play them. BUT EVERY OTHER ROLE demands tanks to be playable toplane. Do they wanna play them? NAh they don't it's just easier to deal with ornn or maokai on a mage than it is to deal with riven, irelia, jax etc.

church arson1 votes

Tanks destroy literally every role.

Everyone melts before they can damage them properly.

They can towerdive and get out at 80% health with a triple kill. I hate them more than the hypermobile towerdivers.

Easy as shit to play as, easy as shit to conquer the whole game as.

They deal a shit ton of damage, which they shouldn't do.

Unemployed Ninja1 votes

My hatred for tanks comes from a bygone era that makes me hate it any time we enter a tank meta. It was the time of Atmogs.

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