ultimate rylai fix: 800hp, 20ap plus liandry change

Msatie··2 votes·472 views
  1. add liandry burn to hauting guise, the 1600 item. and make the burn also apply on auto attacks

  2. remove magic penn from guise. move the magic penetration to liandry.

  3. make rylai 800hp 20ap

  4. make the slow always 20% for every spell, but the slow lasts for 14 seconds when you land a spell with a melee champ. and 7 seconds for a ranged champ

this will "spice up" many AP bruiser and mage paths and make rushing a haunting guise "viable but different" on AP champs because the burn is still totally useful even early game (without health stacking) since its damage is always decent unless enemy is below 30% hp in which case you 1-rotation him anyway

and plus the burn will now apply on autos and it doubled when u get a rylai

haunting into rylai will become a decent "optional" tanky utility path for mages or AP bruisers since it will give low AP, but nice burn and survivability in lane against a zed or something, and the burn is doubled vs slowed targets by rylai. so you go rylai+liandry for survivability utility and some damage, and then AP after

and next the slow is reduced to 20%, but buffed to 14 second duration for melee and 7 second for ranged. i think thats pretty helpful of a change

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Maybe calm down on that slow duration. It may be a weak slow, but even five seconds is a long time in this game.

i felt 20% is "almost nothing". its like a baby slow. so i thought making a baby slow last a long time (and double for melee) was ok, allowing for chasing in jungle in 1v1 chases, or to help slow a team in a teamfight to chase them down or kite them

lets be honest. if a ekko goes on you (and your adc) your dying no matter what... the baby slow doesnt really change anything... it is just there to help one team chase another team in a 5v5 teamfight

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Health that rivals warmogs? Are you insane?

with almost no AP, and a baby slow, and a higher pricetag

warmogs has regen and a garen passive instead of a slow and 20 ap . plus 50 more hp and 10% cdr

both items are totally comparable and well priced for their power

8 Comments

Wolfram Oxford2 votes

Something makes me think that you are trolling, but in the case that you are not having a 14-7 second slow would probably encourage the tactic of harass junglers and kill laners. You would see ranged junglers walking into lanes just to tack you with a slow lasting 14 seconds so you will have a harder time trading or csing, oh and imagine bot lane supports...

Dêcoy1 votes

14seconds slow with every Spell...good luck running away from AP Assasins. Yeah, sure why not. While we are at it, just give this thing Zhonya's passive, bump the AP to 99999999, because why not and lets make it free for AP champions. #MakeRylaiGreatAgain

Bootleg Gay1 votes

Maybe calm down on that slow duration. It may be a weak slow, but even five seconds is a long time in this game.

Ralanr1 votes

Health that rivals warmogs? Are you insane?

Msatie1 votes

{quoted}

Health that rivals warmogs? Are you insane?

with almost no AP, and a baby slow, and a higher pricetag

warmogs has regen and a garen passive instead of a slow and 20 ap . plus 50 more hp and 10% cdr

both items are totally comparable and well priced for their power

Ralanr3 votes

Except you've effectively made Rylai's a must have health and utility tank item. I main tanks and this item IMO (which I'm unranked so grain of salt) would be busted.

Combined with warmogs you get a total of 1600 health, and a shit ass ton of utility on top of crazy out of combat regen. Hell combined you'll probably be able to get Warmogs heart passive.

On AP bruisers it'd be nuts too. 800 health is nothing to sneeze at.

Msatie1 votes

i felt 20% is "almost nothing". its like a baby slow. so i thought making a baby slow last a long time (and double for melee) was ok, allowing for chasing in jungle in 1v1 chases, or to help slow a team in a teamfight to chase them down or kite them

lets be honest. if a ekko goes on you (and your adc) your dying no matter what... the baby slow doesnt really change anything... it is just there to help one team chase another team in a 5v5 teamfight

AcidTheWarlock1 votes

And we thought Ekko could permaslow before, DAAAAMN

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