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champion "classes" do not define them. instead it highlights their strongest areas

Msatie··37 votes·1,296 views

There is a post speaking about how "if the role of a assassin is to kill the high priority target quickly, why do many of them have AoE damage"

well i believe the answer is simple. In a moba game like League / Dota 2, champions arent really designed with a class in mind, moreso they are designed with a gameplay element and certain elements of power and weakness in their gameplay.

now moving on from that. The champion class simply was created to allow new players to easily identify strengths of champions, and then it sort of stayed from there

however. i believe the champion class system is good and should stay. because it serves as a way to identify champions for new players

however i think its safe to say that champion classes are moreso a way to highlight what riot believes are the strongest elements of a champion

an "assassin" is a champion that has "going in and being able to kill a high priority target" as one of their strongest strengths in their gameplay. but its not their only gameplay element. champions that are tagged as "assassin" certainly have a high-ability to be able to single out and kill certain targets, but its not their only power. champions are designed with many outlets of power and many gameplay weaknesses, and the class system just helps identify what riot thinks is the strongest area of a champions kit

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Mandang02 votes

That's fine, but then the question should become "what is this class's intended weakness?"

When Riot responds that AOE is needed to ensure the assassins can waveclear to roam, and what they do when they get to the other lane is strong, and when "going in and being able to kill a high priority target" is also complemented by AOE... where's the weakness? No CC? I'd say death is a pretty good CC - long duration, tenacity doesn't work against it either...

Edge of Daybreak5 votes

When Riot responds that AOE is needed to ensure the assassins can waveclear to roam, and what they do when they get to the other lane is strong, and when "going in and being able to kill a high priority target" is also complemented by AOE... where's the weakness? No CC? I'd say death is a pretty good CC - long duration, tenacity doesn't work against it either...

Let's look at talon who arguably has the most aoe out of the assassins. His non ult mobility can only be used on things he can target where most assassins can just go wherever. His laning phase is bad. He has almost nothing to do when his burst is done. he just hopes you died and if you didnt he hopes you dont kill him before his cd's are up. Hell being melee is a weakness in this game and a lot of assassins are melee.

OP kinda said my thoughts on why the way boards views assassins is flawed. they think they should all have the same weaknesses and strengths in a vacuum.

TequilaZombie1 votes

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He has almost nothing to do when his burst is done. he just hopes you died and if you didnt he hopes you dont kill him before his cd's are up.

Secret Talon Build:item 3074 item 3087 item 3031 item 3142 item 3147 Now you are also a melee carry after you finish assassinating the primary target. Great to play for the lolz

Wimbledofy1 votes

The primary target is the squishiest one though, and talon's normal build has a bunch of pen meant for the squishies and non squishies. This build has less pen so your use in killing the other targets isn't that high. Melee carry's have the ability to kill tanks generally but this build doesn't. Also this lacks a high amount of cdr which normally allows talon to do his combo again. This build looks like it would have the opposite effect of what you are trying to do with it.

TequilaZombie1 votes

With this one you nuke your target just as quickly, but item 3142 active coupled with the 50% crit allows you to take people out while your abilities are on CD. It's a stupid goofy build, but works in the right circunstances.

ModAcademy Kayn1 votes

Fuck boots, grab Last Whisper.

ProfDrDeath2 votes

Let's look at talon who arguably has the most aoe out of the assassins.

That is, if you consider Katarina to not be an assassin. Otherwise, she has the highest AoE damage, with three of her skills being AoE/multitarget and all skills benefitting from resets in some way.

DeathBurst2 votes

The intended weaknesses of the Assassin class (with the same cave-at that class weaknesses are only highlights, just the same as class strengths) are low durability and lack of sustained damage, and little utility.

Mandang01 votes

OK, then I'd love to see resets start getting cut.

DeathBurst2 votes

Who has resets?

Kha: it allows him to escape after his kill, nothing more. Akali: idem, or getting to her next target, but doesn't add meaningful DPS. Kata: it's her uniquer strength, her niche, not related to her class.

Am I forgetting anyone?

Legacy Hydralpha2 votes

This is a good reminder to have. Oh and btw,

champion "classes" do not define them.

Does this mean I can go AD Veigar and play him as a hybrid marksman(?)

ChaosThief3 votes

Technically, yes. You can also play AP Riven , AD Singed , etc, the point is you can play a champion any way you want, it's just up to you to see if you actually want to do it.

Supreme Senpai692 votes

Assassins have AoE for waveclear to let em roam and actually assassinate people

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