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Riot Could we please do something about Sion's Passive, Sion's R?

sAyCo··2 votes·818 views

Hi everyone. (please excuse my English is not perfect) im Sion main since Season 7 OFC i play other champions too And im Silver 3 btw And this has no relation of what im gonna say. So first of all i know that Sion is Not a bad champion he Sometimes drive game into victory in some point. but this still doesn't mean he is in a good stats. and this what im going to talk about.

i know that 'Winrate' is not the only argument about if in a good stats or not, but lets just mention it for more options. Sion has 51% winrate overall sites and his winrate is actually dropping down hell but as i said before winrate isn't everything and this is proving my points more.

Some sites about Sion winrate stats: http://www.op.gg/champion/sion/statistics/top https://lolalytics.com/ranked/worldwide/platinum/plus/champion/Sion/Top/ https://www.leagueofgraphs.com/champions/stats/sion/diamond

There is the last time Riot has buffed him back in patch 7.22 But lets not bother with that. they have fixed a lot of bugs. which basically he still lacking of good stats

Base attack damage increased to 68 from 59.72. Base armor increased to 32 from 23.04.

*First let's talk about his R, physically that what i see these issues is what makes him bad as a champ overall.

Sion's R is in very low Cooldown in later ranks. which he needs more at early game Cooldowns. it insanely crazy when you know that. Sion's R cooldown is 140 / 100 / 60 from 80 seconds cooldown difference from first Ult lvl 6 to lvl 16. which really makes Ultimate hat a bit useless early / mid / late game for him.

Sion's R is basically Hitting on Minimum Physical DMG 150 / 300 / 450 instead of Maximum Physical DMG 400 / 800 / 1200 During to that How hard to place it, its usually very very easy to avoid it, by flash, mobility, Moving fast even counts, and many more making it somehow very hard to place to a maximum dmg, so its kinda unfair.

Sion's R making LOUD huge very BIG SOUND telling you GO AWAY fast hes coming, which disgusting me, i don't see any other Ult is can be avoid like this ever in this game.

*Second let's talk about Sion's Passive, which basically disgusting me also, Ask anyone telling you, you will be an idiot dying from Sion's passive, i wont deny that its sometimes useful when you die inside team fights. and its sometimes Really really bad when your team Runs away and enemy team Runs towards them ignoring your dead body like its not Existed specially after Kai'sa released also now there is tons of champions that can CC his dead body, knocking him back, knocking his body up, or even runs faster from him, or even to kill his body faster.

*last thing let's talk about his Squishiness hes Skills isn't Trash as i mentioned before in the top of the post. but it really hard to Place a good Q during to tons of mobility in game, and CC Even thou in some cases his passive not helping him even with a cent, his R sometimes not helping him even with a cent maybe to go forward faster to a place you want to go if there is no Blocks out coming everywhere in the map

Please feel free arguing about this And discussing it with all in here.

9 Comments

Ralanr4 votes

With how low Sion’s ult CD is, ultimate hat isn’t worth it. It’s better to grab mana flow band. As for the hitbox and noise, those are all for counterplay purposes which allow it to be so strong.

His passive needs to be weak like it is so the rest of his kit can justify its power. If a Death passive was any good, that would encourage the champion to suicide as a basic strategy. And even Karthus tries to stay alive despite having the best of the death passives. If you really want to make use of his passive, get a frozen mallet.

My only complaint about his passive is that people can just outrun him with base MS.

webstar19951 votes

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With how low Sion’s ult CD is, ultimate hat isn’t worth it. It’s better to grab mana flow band. As for the hitbox and noise, those are all for counterplay purposes which allow it to be so strong.

His passive needs to be weak like it is so the rest of his kit can justify its power. If a Death passive was any good, that would encourage the champion to suicide as a basic strategy. And even Karthus tries to stay alive despite having the best of the death passives. If you really want to make use of his passive, get a frozen mallet.

My only complaint about his passive is that people can just outrun him with base MS.

I still go ult hat and just get D ring in lane for E damage and mana regen. if you go ult hat and 5% extra cdr/free boots you can have a 28 second cd on your ult at lvl 16.....its broken

Ralanr1 votes

It’s not really worth it IMO as his ult gets to like 36 seconds on its own with enough CDR. Going scorch for better early damage is better for snowballing.

webstar19951 votes

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It’s not really worth it IMO as his ult gets to like 36 seconds on its own with enough CDR. Going scorch for better early damage is better for snowballing.

8 seconds is a long time trust me

Ralanr1 votes

I know it’s a long time. Though if you use his ult right you don’t need it so often.

Plus it’s not like you need his ult multiple times in a teamfight.

sAyCo1 votes

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I know it’s a long time. Though if you use his ult right you don’t need it so often.

Plus it’s not like you need his ult multiple times in a teamfight.

thanks very much, the frozen mallet was a great idea that i didnt think of before.

Ralanr2 votes

No problem. Other items you could try are ghostblade or omen because you can use active items in his passive.

I don’t use them because I suck at remembering to press the item buttons.

webstar19951 votes

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I know it’s a long time. Though if you use his ult right you don’t need it so often.

Plus it’s not like you need his ult multiple times in a teamfight.

You must not watch LSC......there were 4 games literally won off of Sion ulting twice in a fight. It's a game changer. Sion ult baits taric ult when go in again GG

webstar19951 votes

Full ad Sion is great haha item 3142 item 3047 item 3071 item 3812 item 3022 item 3053 (or any tank item last) THIS BUILD IS GREAT FUN

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