what do you think about the "plus 15% shields and heals" on ardent censer

feel my poke·Jun 29, 2016·6 votes·1,640 views

so got 20 more ap for a total of 60 and 15% more on your shields and heals. is it worth it to buy it as a first, second, or third item on ( do people still play her as a support ?! XD ) and especially and because they have both heals and shields on non ult abilities.

i don't play a lot of these supports and i thought rushing it would be really good.

what do you think and should you rush it?

PS : these are not all the supports that can heal and shields. i know i forgot some.

24 Comments

Silly NeekoJun 29, 20163 votes

Sightstone first, Support item second, item to help your utility (or boots) third, whatever you didnt choose for third becomes fourth. The utility is dependant on play style and is situational depending on the game.

Increased heals and shields on various different items, the forbidden idol will probably be right after your tier 2 support item.

Just how I think about it lol, but honestly apart from minor healing, his heals are lackluster at best. Even as full ap bard the heals are kinda meh, could be interesting to see how many pick it up for him... but for some reason I do not forsee much use out of it for him.

Could be fun on a windspeaker's blessing thresh with face of the mountain and locket of the solari though xD

ltmetalJun 29, 20163 votes

Damage supports like Lux Orianna Kayle should probably still be building Athene's.

However, champions like Soraka Taric Janna are super hyped.

GaleWinUnleashedJun 29, 20163 votes

I'll probably buy it after Talisman, Locket, and Sightstone.

https://i.imgur.com/1HvNiEO.png?noredirect

cute irelia gfJun 29, 20163 votes

Janna nerfs incoming

Josh L JonesJun 29, 20162 votes

as a soraka main I have always bought this item 2nd so its just going to be better for me =)

feel my pokeJun 29, 20163 votes

as a zyra main, i really hate the fact that you play soraka. especially if you are waaaaay back under tower away from my poke

Duke AnaxJun 29, 20163 votes

As a Sraka main I hate that just as much. I always go Q first and poke back. After all that's how Soraka is supposed to be played

feel my pokeJun 29, 20162 votes

or max W and say BYE BYE TO ALL MY POKE AND MANA

Duke AnaxJun 29, 20163 votes

That's the fun thing about new Soraka, if you max Q and actually hit with it it's bye bye poke and mana as well, but I'm doing damage as well.

Though I'm not entirley sure how hard it is to hit a botlane when it's riddled with plants.

RismonaughtJun 29, 20162 votes

I main Soraka. I am worried she might become a patch day perma ban. Especially if new Ardent Censor stacks with new Mikaels.

feel my pokeJun 29, 20163 votes

dude it stacks with itself XD

i will try it now and build 3 of it in a game

Lady HammerlockJun 29, 20162 votes

Now i have more reason to actually build locket and other tanky support style items all i have to do in patch 6.13 is buy ardent and mikeals as Soraka and i win the game

feel my pokeJun 29, 20161 votes

they dont stack like what you think.

it is not 15% + 15% =30% ( this is wrong )

they stack multiplicatively.

it is like, bye one and get 15%. by another items like it and it will be 22.5% ( not sure about this number it could be less or more )

Illâoi Evê SiônJun 29, 20166 votes

No, they stack additively and do so also with Windspeaker's.

Lady HammerlockJun 29, 20161 votes

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they dont stack like what you think.

it is not 15% + 15% =30% ( this is wrong )

they stack multiplicatively.

it is like, bye one and get 15%. by another items like it and it will be 22.5% ( not sure about this number it could be less or more )

Fine by me,okay

right now soraka's W at max rank has a 200 base heal,say per say we round off 22.5% to 20%(for easier counting) thats 40 more base heal value if the numbers are right if 20% of 200 is 40 that mean 5% is 10 and 5 is 2.5% which means your getting 45 more base heal before counting ability power or wind speakers blessing

R FLASH XDJun 29, 20162 votes

Yes people still play lux as a "support" (never won a game where i had a "support" lux on my team pls don't do that shit to your teammates)

Itadaki SeiekiJun 29, 20161 votes

I think Bard will start picking it up.

15% healing on his crappy W in the early stages of the game will do a ton more.

Plus they're basically able to be on the map, giving top and middle extra Attack Speed + Healing.

feel my pokeJun 29, 20161 votes

so is rushing it after sightstone is a good thing ? more ap and more heals

Itadaki SeiekiJun 29, 20161 votes

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so is rushing it after sightstone is a good thing ? more ap and more heals

Eh. If you're good on waiting for Locket and Heart yeah.

I don't think it'll be a HUGE investment, but it'll definately benefit Bard players who really do take the "Roaming" Aspect seriously.

feel my pokeJun 29, 20161 votes

i think this will be a huge thing for karma late game when everyone has a full build.

with this item and the key mastery that gives more shields and iron solari active. damn that's a really big shield for her R + E

Deep Terror NamiJun 29, 20162 votes

No matter what items you get, Bard is not a good healer. I think you're going to waste a lot of gold picking it up.

Itadaki SeiekiJun 29, 20161 votes

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No matter what items you get, Bard is not a good healer. I think you're going to waste a lot of gold picking it up.

I guess it depends.

Some people max W first on him and play him as a sustain lane.

Others play him poke and max Q ( The only way. )

I guess we'll just have to see.