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Bronze is Russian Roulette ATM

Cowseed··18 votes·1,360 views

Given the current state of the game by itself the game would still be alright in low elo. It's a snowballing monstrosity that is decided in the first 5mins too often, nowadays. This. I could deal with this. I could also deal with the fact that you made it so that the jungler ganks more often.

BUT! The real problem that I have with this is that you also decided to enable autofill permanently. You for some reason decided that you would make the game more snowbally AND let teams have a very high chance of getting weak links. Well not really weak links but links weaker because they are in the wrong spots.

The game is now decided by who has the worst autofill team. This sucks because they don't even have a chance to play passive. Someone will get autofilled mid and then have to go against a mid mane. This is even worse with bot lane because its two kills down there. And since they are very inexperienced in the role after they die the first time they are definitely going to die again. Its especially bad with the supports. As sometimes even a good adc will be handicapped by a support that unintentionally dies to bad positioning. I have had waaaaaaaay too many games where only one side would get any towers. Sure I sometimes enjoy it when I'm on the winning team but now those don't even feel like actual wins. It just feels like I get lucky most times.

Also you will queue up and get the role you want only to have someone dodge and you get assigned to the role you dislike the least. Is it possible that autofill could be just a situational thing like only when it's actually necessary? You can shave off 30s off the queue but that doesn't make up for having 4/22 supports. This is not okay.

23 Comments

GULAG 4 U7 votes

It has always been a russian roulette

Thrëat6 votes

I'll j ust assume it is an honest question and I'll try to help,, if it was sarcasm just ignore below.

1: You need to work on your CS. You were doing alright as kayle with 8-5-2 but you only had 100 CS at 21 minutes. People in lower elo always say "I get kills so I can't get CS" but the truth is you can easily do both. 2: You need to be a roamer as a mid laner. Roamers win games. Winning lane is not enough to carry a game, you need to get action all over the map. The trick is to know when you leave lane and roam so you mimimalize your CS loss. If you roam and dont' get a kill and roamed at a poor time and lost 2 waves you just blew your lead. 3: Runes and masteries - not gonna go into a lot of detail but you need to fix that stuff. 4: Builds and build paths. Some of your builds are not too far off but your build paths make me vomit. Bad build paths make it so you never have a power spike, just a power curve; in league you need to know how wto use power spikes so when you back it feels meaningful and you aren't backing and returning to the field with like 5% more damage. 5: You level really slowly and leveling has a big impact on games. If you can get 3-4 levels on the enemy then you will solo carry harder. The lower the elo the easier it is to get a level advantage. At your elo I can usually win my games with just a couple of backs and 5k in the bank because I won't need to back since I'll have such a huge level advantage. Then if I do back I get such a major power spike it is usually an FF after the next fight. 6: Summoner diversity. Exhaust might seem OP but sometimes ignite or TP would ahve been much bbetter.

That is just what I see from match history alone. I haven't watched a replay so I don't have a full list but theres probably a bunch of micro and macro problems that you are having that could be fixed. I know it feels like your team is holding you in bronze but I promise you that if you were at even a silver 5 skill level you would shoot up to B2/B1 with ease.

Side note: If shit isn't working then change it. You don't improve by doing the same shit all the time you improve by trying stuff out and optimizing every aspect of your game. We are only a month into the season and I'm already on my 10th version of my build, each more optimal than the last.

Cowseed2 votes

THANK YOU!! [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]

When I posted directly asking for advice I didn't get much other than 'cs good' and 'get lucky' in a sense. I really like the advice I'm getting here.

JustARivenMain6 votes

Recently had a Riven (Who was Autofilled Support) take my Riven (was 3rd pick, I was last) then go top without any asking or warning, I only had to assume that she was because of Tele and last second I took Sion, proceeded to take Support, because I'm not an ass and just duo top cause salt. This is a fun season I'll tell you what. She even fed early but then we snowballed bot.

http://prntscr.com/dspjrl <-- The Game.

Edit: The Riven was toxic the entire game to me, calling me "her bitch" for taking support like a person should, looking at their match history they have no games other than Riven/Zed/Yas and top/mid leading me to believe this isn't the first time they got away with this.

LordGeovanni1 votes

if top is your lane you shouldnt take support yea it fuks over the team but people who constantly give people that that their way dont help the problem where they will eventually see that its loseing them games you just encourage them for another game. not saying that he couldnt have went riven support since it has shit ton of damage lots on cc a sheild people just have to realise you cant expect top lane riven game play from support riven.

SmileInABox1 votes

I don't understand why people don't just ask for the lane they want if they get autofilled to supp. I recently had a game with a Garen only player who got filled to supp. I tried to play around him being an asshole, but it was hard when I had to constantly push to prevent him from stealing farm. He was garbage on a basic level too, I'd try to set up aggro plays to take advantage of having no real support and he'd react slower than a snail in a coma.

I fuckin LOVE Bronze...

LuxannaVeritas2 votes

My favorite is when newcomers go into ranked games all happy like "I got this! This can't be that much harder than normals, right?" and then proceed to lose the game and start to flame "Terrible team, we can't win, I'm just going to split push a lane and die for nothing!"

To clarify, this is related to Bronze Lyfe, not autofill. As a support main I don't really have a problem with autofill but I can imagine that it can be annoying to other players.

skyskee0083 votes

SOME games are unwinnable in any Elo.

But bronze is the extremely easy to climb out of it you actually understand the game and don't blame team mates. I'm sure at least 20-30% of your "unwinnable" games could be won easily playing the pressure game. In bronze, If you manage creeps well, you will be 2-3 levels above your laner and 4-5 levels above bot lane.

What do you think happens when their level 13 adc meets up with a level 18 top laner with 150 cs on them? You shit all over them, regardless of them having 10 kills.

Another tip: 1 trick a champion like trynd/Ekko who can solocarry the game if they win lane hard - and once you spam enough with 1 champ you will win lane a lot more.

I'm sure you have the capacity to be silver or gold, but once a lane starts losing you probably tilt and through all safety out the window and it makes the enemy team snowball even harder. Watch informative games like BoxerPete or Quas if you wanna get better.

Cowseed1 votes

I was one tricking Fiora at a point but I stopped because usually I get a lead and it gradually diminishes because I don't capitalize alot and I thought I might do better at that with another champ but I'll go back to Fiora then. Thanks.

DoktorKaiser1 votes

Maining top is best because you can splitpush easily, so fiora is good and so are trynd, riven, jax, irelia, shyvana, udyr, even nasus, pretty much anything that can either split and then 1v3+ or split mindlessly and suicide for objectives

theArtifacts1 votes

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Maining top is best because you can splitpush easily, so fiora is good and so are trynd, riven, jax, irelia, shyvana, udyr, even nasus, pretty much anything that can either split and then 1v3+ or split mindlessly and suicide for objectives

i found maining jungle or mid was the best way to get out cause you can influence the game the most. Get good at either and you'll get out of bronze fast by either making the enemy jungler irrelevant, getting your team fed, or gobbling up w/e enemy you see for yourself.

Asayake 5150glow3 votes

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I was one tricking Fiora at a point but I stopped because usually I get a lead and it gradually diminishes because I don't capitalize alot and I thought I might do better at that with another champ but I'll go back to Fiora then. Thanks.

When ahead as Fiora, keep your enemy far, far away from the minions, and poke them as much as you can. Getting a couple dives off makes the rest that much easier, and when you become able to freely tower dive someone as long as you don't majorly fuck up... That's when you start snowballing hard, and then people come top, and if you can (and you should be able to at that point), 1v2/3 them.

Roaming's also pretty damn important, a mid flank against someone immobile can do wonders, especially since you should have enough damage to dive them with no/little minions, if a little ahead.

TP'ing bot is also great.

If you can't take the opposing tower and can't dive the laner, then roam the enemy jungle and kill them. Take a few camps while you're at it - Red and Blue buff are both pretty great on FIora.

venomous frost1 votes

it's not just bronze

I have a 0% autofill winrate in botlane lmao

Thrëat1 votes

Honestly, any elo feels like russian roulette when you are playing at your skill level. The only thing in league right that is actually a roulette is flex and that is because the teams are not ever closely matched. A Silver 1 is gonna lose lane 100% of the time vs a D3 and that is the kind of shit you see in flex.

Cowseed1 votes

I'm talking about solo Q. You have a 50% chance of having a horrible bot lane. You will have a very nice win streak only to be tilted by some of the the heaviest teammates.

Lexyy1 votes

Hate that flex

khorney1 votes

or get gud

Cowseed1 votes

Explain 🤔. If I'm doing something wrong I would really like to know what it is so I can fix it. You obviously know something so why don't you share it with us? 😁

Thrëat1 votes

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Explain 🤔. If I'm doing something wrong I would really like to know what it is so I can fix it. You obviously know something so why don't you share it with us? 😁

Honest question or sarcasm?

khorney1 votes

I dunno if fill and I get supp and I just play as taric. I win

Cowseed1 votes

It's not that I have a problem when I play support. I just pick Annie and become a stunbot/nuke.

SmileInABox1 votes

It's also Russian Roulette in that playing in Bronze leads me to an early death.

DragonShea1 votes

Here is my opinion on autofill. FUCK THAT SHIT!!! I came here to play as my chosen role. if I have to ask i'd go do blind pick, not draft.

Riot get your shit together, let people chose Autofil, don't force us to do it and land in a role we are not good at, i can tank-bruiser or even drivers ok, but not Marksman or mages not every player can every role you asses.

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