@Roit Shyvana Still Needs Work

Gusdel·11/23/2016, 9:25:12 AM·19 votes·8,534 views

She is so much weaker before these nerfs. Yasou can use his Q and knock me up mid ult so that buff isnt working correctly. When a select few CC can stop the Ult the changes make her much weaker. We the massive gutting of fevor she is setting really poorly. That ult change people where asking for to make it CC immune didn't really change her very much. Now she can ult in take 1 extra shot and die. Her new "E" you can just walk out and no big deal. The "W" change i would have never notice if it wasn't in the patch notes. So you nerfed her passive add extra counter play to her "E" and made knockups work when she ults in so that change wasn't very good and the extra health is nice but the passive hurts her already weak early game even more.

Did Mordekaiser teach you a lesson. Passive around map control suck and are a terrible waste of power budget. They can be counter with zero interaction with the player which leads to a very frustrating situation for the player and hinder game health.

So all in all. You changed fevor so much it is worthless to AS champions. You nerfed every AS item because of fevor and only buffed 2 very slightly. Rageblade needed the buff before the fevor change and should have happen a few patches ago. She is weak because of items and mastery changes and few select buffs with heavy handed nerfs isn't going to fix a itemization problem she is having with every other AS champions.

Rant over

60 Comments

RiotMeddler11/23/2016, 7:56:00 PM12 votes

Certainly possible she still needs further work in the short term. Let's talk start of next week once the patch has settled a bit? Our estimate is that the 6.23 changes should have added noticeable power to her. If she's been left in an inappropriate spot though (even weaker, not buffed enough or overbuffed) we'd want to do some follow up changes as soon as feasible to correct that though.

ABlueQuaker11/23/2016, 3:20:01 PM6 votes

Any Shyv main will tell you all she needed was a better Ultimate Hitbox and Ignore CC during Dragon's Descent. Riot didn't need to fuck with the rest of her kit.

tbh if Riot were clever they'd play around with her Base/Scaling HP and HP Regen to bring lane Shyv back into the fold if they wanted to see more play out of her.

Oglaf11/23/2016, 3:17:23 PM5 votes

Whatever buffs/quality of life changes they gave her were entirely nullified by them giving her the worst Passive in the game.

Karn Bishop11/23/2016, 9:42:57 AM3 votes

thats adorable op. she did not lose any power and from what i have seen of her so far she gained some power and new build paths due to the changes that she simply could not afford before, even better she can recover from behind so to you i say this.

[zombie-brand-facepalm]

Zelorxon11/23/2016, 11:44:01 AM3 votes

No shyvana is perfect, it's just me being a silver IV scrub that i'm too dumb in order to play her properly, i just need to relearn her, the fact that i shifted from 1v9 carrylord to I'MSORRYPLEASEDON'TKILLMEI'MNOTWORTHY in a night it's completely in my mind. It's not real. i just need to deal with it.

Yours truly, former best shyvana EU

Dominick Destine11/24/2016, 10:57:59 PM2 votes

Hecarim and Lee are overpowered.

Riot's response; "Let's nerf Shyvana!"

Egillion11/25/2016, 1:17:03 AM2 votes

Every other shyvana game in a nutshell in 6.23 :

  • You decide to go top lane = you lose because shyvana is not a top laner =[

  • The enemy team picks Vayne = You lose by default, because there is nothing you can do against health scaling true damage + infinite kitting.

  • The enemy team picks LeeSin Khazix Graves Hecarim Vi = you lose by default because Shyvana can't do sh!t against those pesky champions (they also happen to be god tier though).

  • The enemy laners beat your team mates in laning phase before you can kill the first dragon = you are likely to lose the game right away.

  • The enemy team prevents you from farming dragons = you become useless.

  • The enemy team walks away from you when you finally connect to them = you can't ever kill anything.

  • Eventhough you managed to reach lategame somehow, the enemy ADC builds item 3033 = you become squishy as fuck.

  • Your team goes for a siege on objectives = you wander around aimlessly without purpose because there's nothing to do as Shyvana in this situation.

LMAO

Seriously Rito -_- What did you expect ?

thecowley11/23/2016, 10:37:58 AM1 votes

I actually quite like the ability changes. I've yet to truly notice the range difference on the ult myself. Yes, I'm bronzie, but oh well I guess if that means you don't value my opinion. However, I don't like the passive as it is. I can understand wanting to change it, to make it feel more powerfully connected to her dragon heritage. But I think something went array with it. I don't like it being tied to an "optional" map objective. The change to extra health in dragon form also doesn't really ruffle my feathers either. So even though I don't like her new passive, Shyvana has not been over all nerfed. Passive is a nerf, rest are no more no less powerful, just different

SpookyNeedle11/24/2016, 6:05:48 AM1 votes

It's Yasuo*, not Yasou It bugs me, 3rd time I've seen it

Lestat S4611/26/2016, 5:05:23 AM1 votes

English brother. That was awful.