League of legends is a game! we're here to have fun. So, do what is fun for you.
Karthus jungle? sure. Jhin support? why not. (I could add more examples but cba tbh)
Just remember to atleast try to help your team win, and there's nothing anyone can do to get you in trouble for playing how you like.
[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
xelaker14 voteskeep that kind of shit in normals plz. those aren't off meta picks, those are ass backward picks
best Evaine EU1 voteskarthus jungle is actually good ya fuck, well at least a lot better than lux support.
The Choncho1 votesI'd rather have a lux than a velkoz, malphite, brand, or xerath tbh. the shield is nice and she uses frost queen's well without losing utility in exchange for bullying
C9 Squeeky 10 votesRemember: Playing Ranked queue should mean playing what would be the highest case for success (victory) for your team. Everyone's LP, not just yours, is on the line, especially when in promos.
Want to play off-meta in Normals? Sure. Ranked? Noooo...
Kaìju1 votesQTPie and other high elo players have all said there is nothing wrong with playing off meta picks in ranked so long as you don't suck. Someone got challenger playing Rek'Sai support, so why can't others pick things like MF top? These niche picks trade good things for other good things. Sure an ADC top is vulnerable but if they get camped it opens up their jungle to take dragon easily and focus on snowballing bot lane, or if left alone they may just snowball themselves. Or a Xerath bot with something like Kindred jungle where you rotate the positions to abuse certain matchups.
no to toxic3 votesBecause they suck. A challenger can make anything work. A silver barely managed to make MF work as a adc so stop defending troll picks just so you can play Yasuo in every lane you want and lose everyone the game.
Kaìju1 votesExcept I don't play Yasuo much. Even so, if someone puts in the time to practice and hone their craft they should be allowed to use it so long as they aren't a burden to the team and they try to win.
ampheon1 votesI mean, Yasuo can be played in every lane if you try hard enough but that's neither here nor there
best Evaine EU1 votesi want to see some source on that challenger rek'sai support.
Kaìju1 votesIt was a while back and I will totally admit I was wrong, he got D2 which is still really good. Say what you will about "lol yardstick D5" but that's still better than the vast majority, especially as an off meta pick.
best Evaine EU1 votesyeah i can trust in a mid-high dia reksai support a lot more than a challenger one.
Kaìju1 votesAre you mid high diamond?
best Evaine EU1 voteswas d3 before rito didn't like me anymore
afmghost1 votesDepends on what works. I for one play Twisted Fate as an ADC, and I know for a fact that as long as he doesn't fall behind, he can rip you a new one, especially late game. I mean his W scales on both AD and AP and his E provides a very powerful attack speed boost. If you build crit and attack speed items, you can stun an enemy and kill them before it wears off. However, everyone I play with is skeptical about it until i spawn, ult into Baron pit, and solo kill three of the five enemy players before I die, leaving only two of them with the buff, and leaving the rest of my team room to work with.
C9 Squeeky 3 votesI will still say that you and the OP are the exception rather than the rule. Most players can't even play their role with meta picks, let alone off-meta xD
Etzel Garr8 votesLately, I've grown a bit bored of playing usual support, so I sometimes go
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to break the routine, but I make sure to ask first (and it's usually in blinds).
It's a nice refresher and so far no one has seemed to mind it. [sg-lulu]
Q zzy4 votesMachine gun Lulu is one of the scariest things you can ever see on the rift. I've lost against one as she legit shredded my team. I respect that [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
Baron Barian5 votesThe other day, someone on the forums complained about getting banned for (among a list of other reasons) for picking Jinx when filled into support.
So...are you sure?
Bigrig10716 votesI imagine the Jinx pick specifically wasn’t the reason for the banning.
The “list of other reasons” is probably closer to what actually resulted in a banning.
CPU Lyrica2 votesI mean, as long as they are legitimatelly trying to help their team win, aren't flaming/trolling/etc, it's impropper accusations at most.
Kinda how people say "Dont F*Ck with our meta. play something good" this is essentially anti-fun for people like me who are booored with meta pics, and choose to play something interesting.
either way, no, it shouldn't be bannable, as long as the person is attempting to help the team. In the words of riot, "You can't ban people for being bad."
ImTheSideKick4 votesthis, I enjoy ashe support and do extremely well with it, building support items with a black cleaver and linadry, hell it was the easiest thing ever to rank up during juggernaut patch getting me plat like nothing. was great
the thing that is NOT great is people harassing and trolling ME over MY pick even when we WIN lane and GAME. I swear to god I became so toxic for a month or two when I would end games 3/1/33 while having mids and tops trolling and going 1/12/2 saying crap like "if we had a real support I would try" and "report ashe for trolling"
NOT to mention half the games I legit had the most damage on the team (again remember juggernauts stacked a ton of hp, linadry procs on abilities and does damage based on enemies hp and double if they was slowed, with like a 2 second cd on w a long and wide slowing ability, imaging this in games where the enemy team almost always had 3 juggernauts. one support, one jungle, one top) and they could NEVER touch me or my adc on top of doingother support things like warding with my sight stone and clearing vision, stealing barons and more
CPU Lyrica2 votesHuh.. ashe support. sounds fun. what kinda keystone do you reccomend for that? tempted to try it cx
Also, had a gangplank sup' match the other day, they kept yelling at me to play a real sup, until my ult got the jg a tripple kill.
ImTheSideKick1 voteshonestly depends on your play style,i like arcane comet as its so easy to land with her, get a lot of cdr as well
for build I normally go with this
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depending on how you are doing and enemy team comp (sorc boots is more against teams with a lot of tanks so your burns do even more, and you know you can survive)
cuz wards and extra easy poke damage in lane
for cdr and makes your adc do more damage, plus the hp helps a lot, trust
again hp helps plus this procs on w and r to burn enemies based on their HP and double due to innate slows/stun
basic support item
again basic support item
other good items depending on enemy team. 
and even 
if you run front of life as every one will heal off all the people you slow
RocketRelm4 votesNo, playing off-meta isn't a reportable offense. Do remember though, that it automatically makes everything wrong in the game 120% your fault, especially the stuff that had nothing to do with you.
Jungler gets invaded? Fucking varus toplane, such trash. Get 2v2 killed bot at lvl 3 cause of support teemo? Useless mid Morgana.
Pandemic Punch4 votesBut if they pick "off-meta" because they are mad in champion select and then play mid lane when they queued for adc..... It is bannable
Shiznyte4 votesCan I report the Support Yasuo who went 0/7/2 and complained all game he didn't get mid or top?
Abraxus follower3 votesif he was inting sure! but feeding no :/ as op said it's okay to play how you play but he wanted to play yas:P Don't downvote me o_o
Dabundis1 votesInting or not, it sounds like he picked Yasuo support to "punish" his team for not letting him have his role. That kind of temper tantrum should be reportable.
I don't have all the facts though.
FullmuteAll play3 votesBut before doing this keep in mind that this can happen to you https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/FrILlWp7-14-day-ban-because-playing-nunu-support-with-smite-is-stealing-other-peoples-roles
Triumphant Mind1 votesBut before doing this keep in mind that this can happen to you https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/player-behavior-moderation/FrILlWp7-14-day-ban-because-playing-nunu-support-with-smite-is-stealing-other-peoples-roles
but there was no excuse for going support when you have smite though.
FullmuteAll play1 votesWhy there is no excuse, it still leads to win according to him. Plus why do you assign summoner spell to roles, but believe that champions shouldn't be assigned ? I am not against non-meta, but this is an example, that it can be dangerous in long run.
Triumphant Mind1 votesWhy there is no excuse, it still leads to win according to him. Plus why do you assign summoner spell to roles, but believe that champions shouldn't be assigned ? I am not against non-meta, but this is an example, that it can be dangerous in long run.
i mean there are certain champs assigned to roles like supporting and tank but sometimes dependin on there kit they can do more than there what they were assigned for. i mean you wouldnt see janna going jg or rakan jg because theyre literally made for support and as to the nunu with smite if he called support he didnt need smite
FullmuteAll play1 votesSo I will assume, that you agree with OP, correct me if I am wrong
"Karthus jungle? sure." but Janna jungle not ? For me taking Karthus as jg, makes as much sense as taking Janna jg (doesn't makes any sense) Jhin support? why not." He is literally made for adc, but going sup is ok, while rakan jg made for support doesn't make sense ? how is your logic different here ? Why do you think he didn't need smite ? Maybe it was part of his strategy ? Again following this logic adc don't need barrier or cleanse (instead of heal), but people still pick it.
So I am not really going into discussion, as I am not a fan of wasting time on arguing 24/7, and this is my last word in our conversation. But I just feel like you have double standards.
Triumphant Mind1 votesSo I will assume, that you agree with OP, correct me if I am wrong
"Karthus jungle? sure." but Janna jungle not ? For me taking Karthus as jg, makes as much sense as taking Janna jg (doesn't makes any sense) Jhin support? why not." He is literally made for adc, but going sup is ok, while rakan jg made for support doesn't make sense ? how is your logic different here ? Why do you think he didn't need smite ? Maybe it was part of his strategy ? Again following this logic adc don't need barrier or cleanse (instead of heal), but people still pick it.
So I am not really going into discussion, as I am not a fan of wasting time on arguing 24/7, and this is my last word in our conversation. But I just feel like you have double standards.
I don't really see how you feel that way, but I never said people couldn't go with different sum spells it doesn't make sense to me as a support would go with smite and as for me I'm going by what I usually do adc heal/flash support flash/exhaust
Triumphant Mind1 votes[{quoted}](name=Triumphant Mind,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PqLeuxzJ,comment-id=000200000000000000000000,timestamp=2018-03-23T16:55:34.771+0000)
I don't really see how you feel that way, but I never said people couldn't go with different sum spells it doesn't make sense to me as a support would go with smite and as for me I'm going by what I usually do adc heal/flash support flash/exhaust
and why did you reply if you don't want to argue ? as you know I'm bound to reply tbh it would have been better to ignore it.
R3D Bandit3 votes[{quoted}](name=CPU Lyrica,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PqLeuxzJ,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-03-22T02:07:17.118+0000)
League of legends is a game! we're here to have fun. So, do what is fun for you.
Karthus jungle? sure. Jhin support? why not. (I could add more examples but cba tbh)
Just remember to atleast try to help your team win, and there's nothing anyone can do to get you in trouble for playing how you like.
[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
Riot already set a precedent with smite Singed: you have to explain yourself to the room and your team has to support what you are doing; anything else is reportable.
JustaNewb3 votesWhat most of these younger players fail to ever realize is that the ADC used to go mid. The Tanks often jungled, and everyone else just rather split between the two lanes.
The "meta" is seen as this holy idea of viability, and they quote streams and statistics that are extremely flawed as long as it fits the narrative that they have any idea what they are doing. It isn't, and every year it changes, but... NOW it is absolute dammit!!
Daddy Ants3 votesAs long as you communicate your game plan with your team and you play to win then there shouldn't be a problem.
Psybicilin1 votesYou aren't obligated to talk in chat, no one ever got banned for not typing lol. A lot of times when I'm grinding, I just mute all and just use pings to communicate.
3TWarrior2 votesI tend to be fairly accepting so long as the other person can at least explain it but some picks can be very off. For instance, what if someone plays a jungling nami? I would pretty much consider that...bad, but, what if instead someone used the jungler position to add Nami to a lane to benefit that lane and then becomes a roaming crowd control and healing gank character? That I would accept
BroLane2 votesWhat Disco does should be, if you pick off meta when a teammate is stuck in a role they aren't comfortable with, you are twice as toxic as the majority of ragers. If I have to go ADC and my main champ is banned, I don't want a Teemo or Yasuo support.
Linna Excel2 votesJust please try to play 10+ games of your off-meta pick in normals before trying it in ranked.
Acheron162 votesI dont mind playing off meta provided that:
You warn the team beforehand You actually try to play for the win, not just playing different for the sake of it
Same goes for items, I dont mind if you pick subpar items lime Ohmwrecker a d Banner of Command if you know how to use them. I do mind people following cookie-cutter builds that result in shit like Assassins building Black Cleaver when the enemy team doesn't have a single armor item or even tank.
KoKoboto2 votesI play Veigar in carry position bot lane at it works so damn well. Sticking event horizon with a support's CC is guaranteed domination.
PROJECT Äkali2 votesI play ap kai'sa support with friends they flamed me at first but then I 2 shot the adc as soon as I got ludins ekko so they gave in
Eons31 votes[{quoted}](name=CPU Lyrica,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PqLeuxzJ,comment-id=,timestamp=2018-03-22T02:07:17.118+0000)
League of legends is a game! we're here to have fun. So, do what is fun for you.
Karthus jungle? sure. Jhin support? why not. (I could add more examples but cba tbh)
Just remember to atleast try to help your team win, and there's nothing anyone can do to get you in trouble for playing how you like.
[slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
Ive noticed a large amount of people run it down mid because you pick something off meta. Then they justify their actions to themselves and others in the party as "Punishing" the off meta pick.
Eons31 votesIve noticed a large amount of people run it down mid because you pick something off meta. Then they justify their actions to themselves and others in the party as "Punishing" the off meta pick.
pretty sure its around 45% of the player base that does this either passively or actively. Its REALLY large as lucian support gets about 2 flamers per game, and typically 1 INTENTIONAL FEEDER AND AFK per 3 games.
