PSA To ADC's; LET YOUR TANK CS.

CPU Lyrica·Mar 19, 2018·40 votes·2,068 views

Are adc's literally that blind that they cant see the 4 little orbs floating around the tank, and know to let them grab some minions?

45 Comments

HammermancerMar 19, 20187 votes

Ok it's fine if you're just in your grove and i'm playing taric or whatnot and you just hit one

but when you start fucking spam pinging me and blowing all your mana because "Wave control" or some other shit your bronze/silver/gold ass doesn't actually comprehend at all

well fuck you, you're throwing lane by using your mana

also as a side note, Adcs get wards too

Ariel the CruelMar 20, 20181 votes

What's a ward? Can I eat it?

~ TT life.

xelakerMar 19, 20187 votes

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Are adc's literally that blind that they cant see the 4 little orbs floating around the tank, and know to let them grab some minions?

adcs??? you mean the whole damn team lol. Everyone on planet earth ignores my lil charges :/

DisembarkMar 20, 20183 votes

Adding “ADC” to your title increases upvotes by 50%

HópeMar 19, 20186 votes

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redniwediSMar 19, 201836 votes

The lower ranks are the largest when it comes to player number, and are the ones who need PSA threads the most.

HópeMar 19, 20184 votes

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The lower ranks are the largest when it comes to player number, and are the ones who need PSA threads the most.

Good point. Still groups every adc into this ''y u take my farm shit head'' category that doesnt need to fuel the circle jerk more.

SociopathFriendMar 20, 20186 votes

As someone who has played with Diamond ADC mains can confirm- rank is irrelevant for this PSA. They're not hostile about it or anything- they just don't always notice. To some degree they know where the Support is and what they're doing but the nitty-gritty is not something they pay attention to all the time.

It only takes them taking away one cannon to be tilting.

HópeMar 20, 20182 votes

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As someone who has played with Diamond ADC mains can confirm- rank is irrelevant for this PSA. They're not hostile about it or anything- they just don't always notice. To some degree they know where the Support is and what they're doing but the nitty-gritty is not something they pay attention to all the time.

It only takes them taking away one cannon to be tilting.

You cant tell me ''rank is irrelevent'' when you are the same rank as OP. No offence, but you are correct sometimes they just dont notice. I will not argue that.

SociopathFriendMar 20, 20184 votes

I mean, I very much can tell you that, my rank reflects exactly what occurs in League; my 10 provisional games that are usually only at the behest of friends. Furthermore- I main Support. Forgive me if I don't believe I would have much luck climbing even if I cared about Ranked enough to play seriously (I don't). If ever a skin emerges that I really want and need to be gold for- I might play Ranked for reals and might even put forth an honest effort- till then it's worth literally nothing to me.

And in any case I specified for this PSA. I didn't say rank means nothing.

ShaolinToiletMar 20, 20183 votes

Support is one of the easiest roles to climb with if you're good

ahferroin7Mar 20, 20181 votes

It's also one of the most dependent on having people who actually understand basics of strategy on your team...

ShaolinToiletMar 20, 20181 votes

The only other roles that can affect more lanes are mid and jungle. If you want to win support is the easiest to climb with next being jungle and then mid because mid is a harder role

HópeMar 20, 20181 votes

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I mean, I very much can tell you that, my rank reflects exactly what occurs in League; my 10 provisional games that are usually only at the behest of friends. Furthermore- I main Support. Forgive me if I don't believe I would have much luck climbing even if I cared about Ranked enough to play seriously (I don't). If ever a skin emerges that I really want and need to be gold for- I might play Ranked for reals and might even put forth an honest effort- till then it's worth literally nothing to me.

And in any case I specified for this PSA. I didn't say rank means nothing.

Supports are really strong right now, I've been climbing and have a lot of people added that hit plat that main support. I understand what you're saying but OP is just trying to complain.

Niggles91Mar 20, 20181 votes

I wouldn't really say complain. He's probably just venting, which isn't too bad.

CPU LyricaMar 19, 20188 votes

Tbh i play norms. i dont really like ranked, soo i only do my promo's for the shiny border.

Stand Alone WolfMar 19, 20184 votes

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Im not sure what you are expecting from low elo adcs. You are that rank because you arent playing above that rank, meaning you make mistakes. Someone not letting you proc relic shield is making a mistake. Dont be a hypocrite.

And please don't use someone's rank as as a starting point for a . . . Valid argument?

HópeMar 19, 20182 votes

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And please don't use someone's rank as as a starting point for a . . . Valid argument?

Someone complaining about stuff that happens in low elo is going to be told exactly that.

This issue doesn't happen in my games.

AirKingNeoMar 19, 20184 votes

It wasn't an argument. An argument applies he's attacking his point.

He isn't. He's saying the point has bias and therefore shouldn't be held with much value.

StarGarudianMar 19, 20183 votes

but arent you supposed to farm with the relic as it gives your adc or anyone near you health and other benefits?

HópeMar 19, 20181 votes

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but arent you supposed to farm with the relic as it gives your adc or anyone near you health and other benefits?

Yes. My duo lets the support get stacks even in the mid game. The problem is you cant expect muvh from low ranked tops mids junglers supports or even adcs

The TrentMar 20, 20181 votes

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Im not sure what you are expecting from low elo adcs. You are that rank because you arent playing above that rank, meaning you make mistakes. Someone not letting you proc relic shield is making a mistake. Dont be a hypocrite.

They could've been ranting about a normal game and 9/10 times normal matchmaking is so messed up you're going to get at least one diamond player, and that could've been their adc. It happens in every elo.

ColteMar 20, 20181 votes

i didn't realize what the particle was for, so i always target my support to check manually and ping cannon minion incase the support forgets to take it. [sg-miss-fortune]

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Im not sure what you are expecting from low elo adcs. You are that rank because you arent playing above that rank, meaning you make mistakes. Someone not letting you proc relic shield is making a mistake. Dont be a hypocrite.

i mean even lv.10 players let you proc relic shield, it's common sense.. i don't know what else you would expect from them if you don't even expect that from a low elo player that actually played over 150 games.

ZtokaMar 19, 20184 votes

ESPECIALLY the cannon minions!! gold for all!!!! Makes me die a bit inside when my tank adc has one charge of relic and there is a cannon minion in the bunch and they cs the caster/melee minion /cry.. The first thing I say when the game starts and I notice the little orbs floating is, BE SURE TO SAVE ONE CHARGE FOR CANNON MINIONS. If you can, take them every time..

Clockwork MouseMar 19, 20183 votes

This is all up to you I am afraid. if you can't last hit you are gonna miss the minion. Here are some tips for late game though, where I assume you are having issues. if he has a shiv, ignore the first 3 minions and go for casters. you should be able to 1 shot any cast minion, so take those. If a canon is there, time your attack so you hit it between autos your ADC is doing so you take it. If shiv is down or didn't take it then you can use the same strategy for the melee minions.

his is late game, where pushing minion waves are important. No one should wait for you to CS some before they want to shove a wave into the enemy towers.

Also, idk why you are complaining about your ADC. in my experience mid laners with AoEs are much harder to get CS from since they can clear a wave with a push of a button.

Good luck and practice last hitting. [sg-ezreal]

CPU LyricaMar 19, 20188 votes

i mean like when there's no enemies around, mid-late game, the adc's can 3-click wave clear, and noone gives a moment of thought to the tanks with their 4 stacks of relic shield.

Also yes midlaners are a problem in this too cx

Also, i shouldn't have to fight my ADC over who gets the cannon, when i clearly have a relic stack..

Clockwork MouseMar 19, 20183 votes

If all else fails you can always ask in the chat. Doesn't work all the time, but has worked for me most of the time.

M Dragon14Mar 20, 20181 votes

i shouldn't have to fight my ADC over who gets the cannon, when i clearly have a relic stack.

The amount of times I have had a support fuck up the cannon or just ignore it when they have a stack.... I never trust some random to take it, unless they ping it, and if they fuck it up after that, they gonna have to fight for it.

Now, if they are hitting it from the get go, then there's no issues.

Kinpin Mar 20, 20183 votes

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This is all up to you I am afraid. if you can't last hit you are gonna miss the minion. Here are some tips for late game though, where I assume you are having issues. if he has a shiv, ignore the first 3 minions and go for casters. you should be able to 1 shot any cast minion, so take those. If a canon is there, time your attack so you hit it between autos your ADC is doing so you take it. If shiv is down or didn't take it then you can use the same strategy for the melee minions.

his is late game, where pushing minion waves are important. No one should wait for you to CS some before they want to shove a wave into the enemy towers.

Also, idk why you are complaining about your ADC. in my experience mid laners with AoEs are much harder to get CS from since they can clear a wave with a push of a button.

Good luck and practice last hitting. [sg-ezreal]

u getting downvoted because u using that ezreal icon. use real icon like [draven-pose]

JamsheerMar 20, 20182 votes

IDK why is this downvoted ..

LDG JiamblesMar 20, 20182 votes

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This is all up to you I am afraid. if you can't last hit you are gonna miss the minion. Here are some tips for late game though, where I assume you are having issues. if he has a shiv, ignore the first 3 minions and go for casters. you should be able to 1 shot any cast minion, so take those. If a canon is there, time your attack so you hit it between autos your ADC is doing so you take it. If shiv is down or didn't take it then you can use the same strategy for the melee minions.

his is late game, where pushing minion waves are important. No one should wait for you to CS some before they want to shove a wave into the enemy towers.

Also, idk why you are complaining about your ADC. in my experience mid laners with AoEs are much harder to get CS from since they can clear a wave with a push of a button.

Good luck and practice last hitting. [sg-ezreal]

It's not a last hitting issue. It's an issue where the ADC doesn't realize that you, as a tank support, getting farm will benefit them.

AirKingNeoMar 19, 20183 votes

Pretty sure people already know this. I don't see the point in a spam/circlejerk thread.

TokogawarufMar 20, 20184 votes

Its just to insult ADC´s, as usual. If you dont feel attacked the Second you open hot as ADC Main, the Boards failed.

At least it feels like it.

The Bad TouchMar 19, 20182 votes

Yeh... no.

They always end up overextending and getting reamed. I'll keep cs'ing as I want.

GelmousMar 19, 20182 votes

hey man when we're pushing a lane to get inhib i don't have all day for you to sit there auto each single minion to get your 25 gold, you're slowing us down if i don't clear the wave because of you.

the downvotes with no counter argument only prove me right

Ariel the CruelMar 20, 20182 votes

When you're the only role that matters, you don't care about what anyone else needs or does!

[/joke]

SwiftKitten88Mar 19, 20181 votes

this is why i stopped playing blitz... i guess i could go back to coin on him.. but its just stupid.

Ahri BakaMar 20, 20181 votes

No joke , when I play a tank support , I always flash for the canon minion if I can't reach it .

Mig89Mar 20, 20182 votes

Dont do that lol. 50g is not worth blowing flash for

DragonSheaMar 20, 20181 votes

5 decently fed champs vs 4 poorly fed champs with fed 1 ADC if someone got a brain then how is gonna win?

ValyrianBladeMar 20, 20181 votes

As a non-support, I have to say there's another side to this argument.

In general, yes, it's nice to let your tank support use his relic process. However (playing Leona when filled) it isn't exactly hard to use your stacks despite allies clearing normally anyways. Just time your attacks right, to hit between the ADCs auto (most games your ADC won't be one-shotting all the melee creeps in the wave, and definitely not the cannon - same goes for mid/top). So sure, I'll make it easier on you when I'm intending to just stick around and waveclear the next wave anyways.

However, let's say I just made a good trade and forced someone to B. I want to get some tower damage, or start Baron, or roam, etc... Any second extra I need to wait to give a support 24g because they can't time their auto for a relic proc properly is wasted time. So do it at the right time or miss the CS. I know it sucks to sit on unused stacks, but it helps the team more to have your strong mid Laner roam a few seconds earlier, or your strong ADC get a few extra autos on that tower, than it does to give your tank support an extra 24-100g for using a proc or three on melee/cannons.

powerbatsMar 20, 20181 votes

As a support main one of the biggest issues with trying to relic shield farm isn't just last hitting which is an issue. IT's your adc seeing you targeting a minion at the back of the wave and turning their focus on it and taking it so your charge gets wasted. You can say you have a charge and let them know but most times if they're not friends they'll take it and screw you both over. Then when a team fight breaks out/gank and you both get wrecked they blame you for not having enough items.

I've seen Blitz use coin and it's actually useful at times but unless and until Riot fixes it so supports aren't more than just window dressing this'll remain an issue. Cough nerf adcs so they actually require a team instead of being a team themself.

Mokuto BunshiMar 20, 20182 votes

Wait, the back of the wave? You need to train your adc's better, let them know you need either MELEE minions or CANNON minions for MAX gold output. item 3307

BernMar 20, 20181 votes

if you're waiting for last hit range to hit a cannon when you can execute it from like half HP with relic, we're just gonna kill it normally.

Sure, it pushes the lane if you execute too early, but if you do it too late, it doesn't look like you're gonna do it at all -- and no one is gonna chance losing a cannon bc they trusted their rando support who may well be autofilled.

Jaygo41Mar 21, 20181 votes

Why? The other AD with more farm is just gonna kill them anyway