Rakan's E Needs to Be NERFED to ONE CHARGE.

IALL ARE MUTEDI·Oct 6, 2018·2 votes·1,747 views

Title. It's honestly too broken for him to be able to engage from one end of the lane to the other in a matter of less than a second. It isn't gameplay. You want to sit there and tell me that C9 Sneaky made an "unforced error" when he had less than a second to react to a guy going from the end of the lane, out of vision, right on top of his face? That's not an unforced error you retards. That's your "balance" team neglecting to nerf that champion.

I guarantee you that his pick rate would decline by AT LEAST 20% if you give him ONE charge on his E so that he can't do that shit. I promise you it would happen. He's the most broken initiate in the entire game and NOTHING has been done about it. Why the Hell would you EVER pick Alistar when you can play Rakan? Rakan gets Alistar's entire initiate combo in ONE ABILITY, AND 2 more dashes on top of that. Alistar pretty much has to have flash to get his combo off and Rakan's ultimate and W are guaranteed to land if either ability lands, then he has 2 dashes to get in position on top of all that? Alistar is legitimately one of the most awful champions in LOL because this champion makes his entire kit seem pretty worthless. After all, Alistar is just as squishy as a Rakan as soon as his 5-second ult wears off.

Don't even care about replies to this thread, we all know it's true. Then we have idiot casters like Spawn saying that Zeyzal shouldn't be CC'ing the Rakan. Well, if you don't, that's what happens. One second he's behind his ADC who is happily farming and the next he's sitting on top of your ADC's face. If you CC the OP engage then your ADC is at least safe from that. Sneaky taking autos to the face from Lucian is on him at that point.

19 Comments

Sacred MathOct 6, 20184 votes

He can only proc E on his allies. If he only has one ally in lane, he's only going there. Not sure what the issue is.

IALL ARE MUTEDIOct 6, 20181 votes

You clearly don't play League of Legends.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ApqM_nKAv4

There's the issue. 0 chance to react to that at all. Can't even see Rakan if you're Sneaky (this is a different game than the one I'm talking about in the OP, just a coincidence that it's happening to Sneaky twice - could've been ANY ADC and the result would be the same). There's seriously nothing you can do if you don't have flash up, and even if you do... Less than a second to push it. It's not gameplay. It's a fucking unbalanced joke that needs nerfed.

Another thing, even if you do have flash up, you have to push it before Rakan moves to you with his W. IT DOESN'T EVEN MATTER IF THE KNOCK UP LANDS. His ult is already active, so Sneaky is CHARMED and can't flash out of the knock up anyway!

BROKEN. How has it not been nerfed. Alistar is garbage when you compare him to this. It is complete and utter bullshit. Like I said, I don't give a shit about the comments on this. It's plain to see. You're just trolling and I'm not wasting my time on explaining this to you when it's obvious.

Nanuk PihoqahiakOct 6, 20181 votes

I'd argue one thing they could look at is just removing the special bonus he gets for dashing to Xayah. It's like 300 extra range when used on her, which is pretty insane.

IALL ARE MUTEDIOct 6, 20181 votes

Nah. They need to remove the extra dash he gets on the E - OR - put a 3 second cooldown in between using each one. Using it to get in and out I can understand but being able to use it to engage from one length of the lane to the other is just complete bullshit, and as expected, you're all a bunch of sheep not thinking that this isn't broken. It is. Just mindless idiots trolling on the forum again. Surprise.

It's so obvious it's busted that even a Bronze player would be like "WOW MAN THAT IS BUSTED," main Rakan, and then be Diamond in 2 Seasons. That's the type of thing you guys argue about. Obvious stuff that needs nerfed. Go ahead and do it. I'm not gonna bother, it's beyond broken and the fix is pretty simple:

1 charge or 3 second CD in between charges is all that's needed. Then he's at least on par with Braum/Alistar.

Ya'll wanna talk about Rakan as if he's squishy AF... He's not! He has shields and heals, and usually builds tank items anyway. Thinking he's squishy is just you being uneducated and idiotic. As usual. Stop trolling and accept it. It needs nerfed.

Peace trolls I'm out. Argue amongst yourselves about something that is clearly, clearly busted and retain your dog shit opinions forever. As you were going to regardless of anything I said here today/yesterday. See ya scrubs.

https://imgur.com/a/QE6BGUG

Mobile PhoneOct 6, 20184 votes

Are you actually whining about a champ that has been sitting at 48-49% winrate and only a 6% pick rate for months. You are wanting to take away one of the most essential things that rito purposely made because he is supposed to be a top tier initiative. Also that video was before his e nerf lol. R charm range isnt the same radius as w so you don't get insta charmed. Alistar on the other hand though has a dash, a knockup, a stun AND only takes 75% reduced damage before even adding onto whatever resistances he built.

One is a squishy super engage

The other is a regular hard tank engage.

Yeah its weird how ali is totally garbage in comparison even though his playrate is higher AND his winrate is almost 4% higher

Pretty ignorant to say you don't a shit and won't waste your time to try and explain this dogshit presumption of rakan being broken when literally nothing proves it.

IALL ARE MUTEDIOct 6, 20181 votes

You think pick rate and win rates determine what's broken and what isn't? If that's the extent of your analysis then you're a completely dog shit player yourself.

Alistar's W can be flashed out of rendering the rest of his combo useless. That means you can't reliably use it on any champion with a dash (Ezreal, LeBlanc, Akali, Renekton, etc.) unless you know that's down, and even then they can just flash it and render your entire combo useless.

They are guaranteed to get charmed as long as Rakan's model collides with them. That's a fact. So even if they wait until he lands so they can see where the W circle is placed it is too late.

Pick and Win Rates don't determine what's broken and what isn't. It's way easier to avoid Alistar's entire kit and there's pretty much no counterplay to this at all. It's a higher ranged Malphite ult when all of this is put together.

It's not ignorant. It's plain to see that it's busted. People are just gonna sit here and waste time arguing that it isn't. It's an instant engage from more than a lane away that you have as much time as a Malphite ultimate to flash from or you're guaranteed CC'd and then pretty much dead if you're a priority target.

Plain to see, obvious. A gameplay example you'll see time and time again. Yet your argument is a number. Piss off. You're the one who is dog shit.

ZephyrDrakeOct 6, 20184 votes

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You think pick rate and win rates determine what's broken and what isn't? If that's the extent of your analysis then you're a completely dog shit player yourself.

Alistar's W can be flashed out of rendering the rest of his combo useless. That means you can't reliably use it on any champion with a dash (Ezreal, LeBlanc, Akali, Renekton, etc.) unless you know that's down, and even then they can just flash it and render your enter combo useless.

They are guaranteed to get charmed as long as Rakan's model collides with them. That's a fact. So even if they wait until he lands so they can see where the W circle is placed it is too late.

Pick and Win Rates don't determine what's broken and what isn't. It's way easier to avoid Alistar's entire kit and there's pretty much no counterplay to this at all. It's a higher ranged Malphite ult when all of this is put together.

It's not ignorant. It's plain to see that it's busted. People are just gonna sit here and waste time arguing that it isn't. It's an instant engage from more than a lane away that you have as much time as a Malphite ultimate to flash from or you're guaranteed CC'd and then pretty much dead if you're a priority target.

Plain to see, obvious. A gameplay example you'll see time and time again. Yet your argument is a number. Piss off. You're the one who is dog shit.

you really are trying to compare a BASIC ability with an ULTIMATE?

IALL ARE MUTEDIOct 6, 20181 votes

Dodging Rakan's W is gonna require a dash or a flash if placed directly on you also. It's seriously the same effect of Alistar's combo in one ability. If you're unable to figure that out yourself then you're kind of lame.

ZephyrDrakeOct 6, 20181 votes

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Dodging Rakan's W is gonna require a dash or a flash if placed directly on you also. It's seriously the same effect of Alistar's combo in one ability. If you're unable to figure that out yourself then you're kind of lame.

so... in other words what you are telling me is that Alistar is better than Rakan. One is tankier than the other and is able to CC lock you way more effectively way sooner and faster than the other. One is way more easily punishable than the other due to one being tankier than the other. You are alspo comparing an ultimate to a basic ability. If you cannot figure out for yourself how dumb you sound you are lame

IALL ARE MUTEDIOct 6, 20182 votes

No? Pretty sure I just told you Alistar is Dog Shit. You apparently can't read.

READ CAREFULLY INTERNET TROLL DUMBASS:

Alistar W+Q = Rakan W.

Got that? Okay. Now you combine that with the fact that Rakan can change his position twice with his E AND gets Alistar's passive (from his Q) + 2 shields from his E and you get MORE SUSTAIN than an Alistar.

Alright now let's talk about the ultimates...

You go in on Rakan and pop your ultimate... Okay, well, now the enemy team is further CC'd and can't attack anyone until it's over. Once it's over, if you're still there, you're dead if they aren't dead (unless you didn't use both charges of E to go in, then you can just get back to your team from free).

You go in on Alistar with your combo then pop your ultimate. The CC ends and now you're in your ultimate, so the enemy team is gonna walk around you and find someone else to attack if they aren't retarded. Then your ultimate is going to end and you're just as squishy as Rakan. So now you're going to die if they're not dead (unless you have flash up, then maybe you'll be okay... depends on your team at that point).

There's the entire comparison. Learn to read you idiot. Bye.

ZephyrDrakeOct 6, 20181 votes

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No? Pretty sure I just told you Alistar is Dog Shit. You apparently can't read.

READ CAREFULLY INTERNET TROLL DUMBASS:

Alistar W+Q = Rakan W.

Got that? Okay. Now you combine that with the fact that Rakan can change his position twice with his E AND gets Alistar's passive + 2 shields from his E and you get MORE SUSTAIN than an Alistar.

Alright now let's talk about the ultimates...

You go in on Rakan and pop your ultimate... Okay, well, now the enemy team is further CC'd and can't attack anyone.

You go in on Alistar with your combo then pop your ultimate. The CC ends and now you're in your ultimate, so the enemy team is gonna walk around you and find someone else to attack if they aren't retarded. Then your ultimate is going to end and you're just as squishy as Rakan. So now you're going to die if they're not dead.

There's the entire comparison. Learn to read you idiot. Bye.

you can say whatever you want about Alistar, it doesn't change the fact that he is just a better Rakan. Your feelings mean nothing to how strong a champion actually is. Alistar W+Q is not Rakan's W since you can actually peel people by using those abilities separately unlike Rakan that cannot do that. You can also Flash Pulv someone as Alistar and then push that target to the enemy team something that Rakan cannot do. You have some actual facts or actual evidence of Alistar being a worse Rakan other than your bias feelings? please learn to play the champions and actually read yourself

IALL ARE MUTEDIOct 6, 20182 votes

What a dipshit. You can literally see how broken it is, you don't need someone to spell it out for you. Keep being a blind sheep. Take the shit you're given and be happy about it. Go for it. Stay in your little sheepy shit hole forever.

You can space your abilities on Rakan to peel too. Example (Engage AND Peel): E->W in -> E back out -> R to peel; Example (Peel Only): R to peel, E (for shield)->W to peel some more -> E (for shield) again.

Your argument isn't even an argument. It's a desperate attempt to try and make that champion look useful in comparison to Rakan... And I'm sorry dude, but it's not. It's no contest.

ZephyrDrakeOct 6, 20182 votes

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What a dipshit. You can literally see how broken it is, you don't need someone to spell it out for you. Keep being a blind sheep. Take the shit you're given and be happy about it. Go for it. Stay in your little sheepy shit hole forever.

You can space your abilities on Rakan to peel too. Example (Engage AND Peel): E->W in -> E back out -> R to peel; Example (Peel Only): R to peel, E (for shield)->W to peel some more -> E (for shield) again.

Your argument isn't even an argument. It's a desperate attempt to try and make that champion look useful in comparison to Rakan... And I'm sorry dude, but it's not. It's no contest.

your useless opinions mean nothing to me. Give me actual proof of him being broken and being better than Alistar than "you see this is how this very specific thing works but I am not going to talk about everything else" if my argument isn't one then yours doesn't even qualify as a comment

IALL ARE MUTEDIOct 7, 20182 votes

https://imgur.com/a/QE6BGUG

ZephyrDrakeOct 7, 20181 votes

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https://imgur.com/a/QE6BGUG

oh look another useless post that does nothing at all. How about you actually attempt to tell me something useful? oh wait! all you have is insanely small things to say about Rakan and then blow them up to hilarious levels while completely ignoring everything else that Alistar does. You can hate on Rakan all you want, that doesn't change anything about him being worst than Alistar in almost every single way

Mobile PhoneOct 6, 20182 votes

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You think pick rate and win rates determine what's broken and what isn't? If that's the extent of your analysis then you're a completely dog shit player yourself.

Alistar's W can be flashed out of rendering the rest of his combo useless. That means you can't reliably use it on any champion with a dash (Ezreal, LeBlanc, Akali, Renekton, etc.) unless you know that's down, and even then they can just flash it and render your enter combo useless.

They are guaranteed to get charmed as long as Rakan's model collides with them. That's a fact. So even if they wait until he lands so they can see where the W circle is placed it is too late.

Pick and Win Rates don't determine what's broken and what isn't. It's way easier to avoid Alistar's entire kit and there's pretty much no counterplay to this at all. It's a higher ranged Malphite ult when all of this is put together.

It's not ignorant. It's plain to see that it's busted. People are just gonna sit here and waste time arguing that it isn't. It's an instant engage from more than a lane away that you have as much time as a Malphite ultimate to flash from or you're guaranteed CC'd and then pretty much dead if you're a priority target.

Plain to see, obvious. A gameplay example you'll see time and time again. Yet your argument is a number. Piss off. You're the one who is dog shit.

You still haven't shown how rakan is broken. Numbers do tell how good a champ is lol. i guess kalista and azir are absolutely broken then too and league is perfectly balanced. Nice you can walk or flash out of rakan w and you can stun him before his w even goes off. Alistar also can knockup and doesnt have a delay with his knockup.

Like if he really is this broken god tier champ, why does nobody play him? Why is he doing so poorly right now? Why is alistar doing better than him in every aspect right now?

Alistar also isn't a champion whos sole purpose is to engage and nothing else or he wouldnt be one of the tankiest champions in the game...

Like if you want to troll atleast have a decent argument.

IALL ARE MUTEDIOct 7, 20181 votes

Hey look another prime example! Wow! So... Unexpected? Lol, yeah right. Check out his lane opponent... Perfect example. Derp. Derp. Derp. Derp. Derp.

https://clips.twitch.tv/GiantPlausibleDovePipeHype

IALL ARE MUTEDIOct 7, 20181 votes

Oh wow, same game, another great example -_- Xayah has flash and can't even use it to get out of 2 key abilities because Rakan is just that broken.

https://clips.twitch.tv/TriangularPolishedDonutStoneLightning

theChibiTinaOct 7, 20181 votes

I think I know what you're talking about and it was a good play by DMG. He didn't come from one end of the lane to the other. He just came out from fog of war. Rakan played the combo perfectly. E for gap close, RW onto sneaky, E back to safety. Rakan is extremely squishy. That's why he has the second E to get him out which has a time limit to be used after the first E. Any hard CC spells death for Rakan as you could see from every time Thresh landed a hook on him. Are you seriously complaining that a champion should get nerfed just because of one good play. C9 even won that game. You keep comparing Rakan to Alistar when Alistar is tanky so he doesn't need that dash to get him out of danger. At least Alistar is still useful after his engage. Rakan is literally all engage and then run away because you can't do anything else after.