DOTA Casters are SO MUCH BETTER than LOL Casters

IALL ARE MUTEDI·10/5/2018, 3:10:14 PM·5 votes·3,372 views

I love how GBM builds a Spellbinder on Galio (Play-in Stage, Day 4, Supermassive vs. Ascension) and the casters are like "Wow that build is questionable, it's not meta, and builds are meta because THEY WORK."

This is a great example of why DOTA is casted better than LoL. Why aren't they talking about what the item actually gives him and why you'd want to build it?

Galio needs to move speed to re-position to Taunt opponents. The utility the item gives him is important to his kit and the casters don't even mention it. When someone builds something out of the norm they should actually talk about it instead of talking about the normal crap that they always talk about which isn't particularly interesting at all (ex. CS leads - often insignificant ones - 10, 15, 20 CS at 10 mins doesn't really matter, rotations, negligible dragons (anything not infernal or mountain really doesn't matter that much)...

All of that happens, Galio (GBM) makes massive plays in that game and they don't even acknowledge the fact that the non-meta decision to build a Spellbinder made a huge impact on the game - EVEN AFTER the game is over (they mention that they shouldn't laugh at his builds, but don't acknowledge the move speed or even the item itself, just that building damage on Galio can make him do damage - Wow, what a revelation that analysis was). What's the point of an analyst desk and shout casters if they don't actually say anything meaningful? I just don't understand how people who are paid to talk about this game do such a shitty job of it.

This isn't even a one-time example. LoL casters don't even talk about when active items get used in normal scenarios.

"Oh wow that guy lost 30% of his HP because of [Insert Ability Here]" - That isn't interesting. I have eyes, I can see that. I can see that an ability missed. Tell me something I may not notice. People that watch this game have played it for years in most cases. Step it up a bit.

DOTA casters track item cooldowns. This is HUGE. It matters! They talk about how they are used, when they are used, and when they are on cooldown. It's almost as if they are playing the game themselves!

They mention rotations quite a bit. They talk about item builds very extensively. Not only the item build the player has gone (and WHY), they also talk about alternative item builds (and WHY you would consider going that or wouldn't consider going that under the circumstances of the current game being played). They talk about objectives only briefly and focus on the actual gameplay and decision-making of the players.

DOTA casters don't just focus on talking about Bounty Runes, or Roshan, or the Jungle. They talk about much more of the game.

LOL has become this sort of formulaic sort of casting and it isn't interesting.

Oh, a fight got won... Wow now a turret/dragon/baron/rift herald is gonna die - as if no one saw that coming... Talk about something interesting. Stop rattling off random stats and talk about the game being played. Focus more on what the players are thinking. Why they're making the decisions they make. Why they build what they build. Stop focusing so much on the meta! IT DOESN'T MATTER TO PEOPLE THAT MUCH. If someone picks something different don't tell the player base that it's a bad decision or shame the person for picking it. This is WHY your community is SO TOXIC. The casters don't think off-meta picks are worth picking so why would we?

Do your jobs better, this is sad.

edit: idk why I even included a vote. It's not even worth voting on as it's NO CONTEST. DOTA casters kick the living crap out of LOL casters. You guys probably don't even watch DOTA so MOST of you aren't educated enough to vote anyway. You have no idea what you're missing. Here's an example: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mgdi59ZGbVQ

If you don't find that more enjoyable to watch than LOL simply based off just the casters and how engaged and knowledgeable they are then I don't know what to tell you. The difference is Night & Day.

Just wait until a teamfight breaks out. Every item usage, every ability that lands or misses - ALL OF IT is caught and called by the shout casters. ALL OF IT. Nothing is skipped. It is impressive, it is awesome, and if you guys want to settle on this crap you're getting... I don't know what to tell you.

LOL players literally HAVE to watch a LOL streamer to get an informed point of view about the game... About matchups, about how a lane should be played, when to build certain items, etc. You're not going to get that from watching LCS games because the casters aren't going to talk about it. They're awful.

63 Comments

Infernape10/5/2018, 5:45:49 PM4 votes

Korean LoL casters > all

Imgartn10/5/2018, 4:08:38 PM4 votes

Too bad they don't have anything to cast. :(

ApollyonBainer10/5/2018, 5:53:46 PM2 votes

Korean casters are best on planet. I dont even need to speak korean.

Eleshakai10/5/2018, 3:36:36 PM2 votes

I've never watched a DotA game and actually REMEMBERED a caster's impact on the experience. They're simply voices talking over the game - largely in an unmemorable and replaceable way. I remember little vocal ticks and nuances of individual casters when watching LoL. I notice and remember the unique personalities and styles of each one. The habits they have while casting.

To me, that tells me they're effective since they've actually made me notice them during the game.

IALL ARE MUTEDI10/9/2018, 12:59:57 PM1 votes

I forget which one of you asked me to shoutcast... I'm not gonna do a current version, but if you're interested here was a clip of me trolling and doing a bit of shoutcasting from 4 years ago. Interestingly enough, this is about what you get if Vedius/Drakos is casting... So I find that sort of laughable. With a bit of practice at rattling off random details from previous matches I could totally cast the LCS. Especially if I don't talk like a retard while I do it.

https://www.twitch.tv/videos/48597495

GeminiRune10/5/2018, 3:55:17 PM1 votes

You make some points here and there and I'll approve there. But when you try to play the comparison game and then throw shade at the community over your own generated post; that's where I disagree with the discussion.

I personally get roughly the same out of both DOTA and LOL in means of caster exposure; casting the game at hand from macro and decision making with a hint of side-talk during dead points. Exaggerating one is better than the other is only by opinion to me, not a fact.

Hell here's an opinion; if I want valuable casting with entertainment, I'd just watch me some good ass Tekken with Tasty Steve and Rip or Dragonball Fighterz with Yipes and Matrix. All the same to me.

edit: That one thing I agree to is the off meta confusion. I only really wish there was more of an idea - even a guess - to how and why rather than shock and approval/disapproval

IALL ARE MUTEDI10/7/2018, 7:40:52 AM1 votes

Prime Example: https://clips.twitch.tv/OilyMoistLobsterKappaPride

If you look at where the wave is at it's obvious that Perkz is intentionally trying to get them to dive because INF have Baron and without minions the Baron is neutralized. He knows he has Zhonya's, he knows he has his dash available... And Vedius states it's a massive fail, but it's the only reason that G2 come back into this game.

They're going back and doing a replay and this guy is so massively wrong anyway. It's just sad. He was wrong during the first time going through it as well, stating it was a mistake and that Perkz didn't want to be there.

BlinkZZ18210/5/2018, 3:16:09 PM1 votes

Spellbinder isnt impactful at all in that game. item 2065 is obviously a better choice for Galio if you want movement speed. Pros do not always build items correctly.