Afkers and trolls everywhere, Brands trying to solo baron, Adc's taking armor pen as their 5th items, facing former plats and diamond with a bunch of low/high bronze team mates.
Good to know how little control you actually have over this game riot.
disregardable4 votesAdc's taking armor pen as their 5th items
what's wrong with that?
bumbertyr2 votes[{quoted}](name=The AFK Farmer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PfcIhhIK,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-01-23T07:03:16.610+0000)
what's wrong with that?
you've got to be kidding.
Junkο1 votesI'm not gonna buy a LW before the enemy team bruisers/tanks get enough armor to actually make the armor reduction noticeable.
Raptamei2 votes[{quoted}](name=The AFK Farmer,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=PfcIhhIK,comment-id=0001,timestamp=2015-01-23T07:03:16.610+0000)
what's wrong with that?
"Riot can't even enforce people buying armor pen as their 4th item! They're incompetent!" -op
supes the lost1 votesarmor pen is my go to 5th item, like my build is literally 
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GlitchScatter3 votesI literally just said that like not even 5 minutes ago. They need to have a system where smurfs are sent to a different area for ranked as its not fair to the derpy little ones who barely know where their ult key is.
mirAcIe2 votesthere is already a solution derpy little ones should not play ranked there is enough game modes where you can learn and master your skill: normal draft, normal blind, normal teambuilder, aram, twisted treeline, coop vs ai
GlitchScatter2 votesBut they do and they severely cripple games. There is no way to stop them from doing it, once they hit lvl 30 its open for them to play ranked. There really isn't a solution to the issue.
mirAcIe1 votesBut they do and they severely cripple games. There is no way to stop them from doing it, once they hit lvl 30 its open for them to play ranked. There really isn't a solution to the issue.
there are not too many of them. the amount of times and games it requires to get to level 30 actually lets your average player to learn enough about the game. there are exceptions, but not it's not that common. Also it's those derpy little players who complain about their placements anyway. So if they don't like it, they shouldn't be playing it yet. There's your solution. They cannot be possibly "crippling" better players and making them stay in bronze, it's a delusion. Better players climb out of bronze in a week without much grinding. If one is "stuck" in bronze, then he's not much better than a "derpy little new player" and it's all fair.
GlitchScatter2 votesYou do understand that you can't carry a team if they aren't a team, right? You understand that it is not possible to carry a game 1v5. I don't claim to be the best player in the world but to say I deserve to be in bronze or anyone else who tries to carry a game deserves to be there is just moronic at best. Most of my games I carry and what happens? My team either has an afk, a feeder, or they rush in without thinking because it seemed like a great idea to 1v3-5. No, it is not the fault of the player, its the fault of the system for demanding a team game but offer nothing in the way of individual growth or reward. Its a TEAM game, you have to work TOGETHER. If there is no team... you have a very slim chance of winning.. that's all there is to it.
mirAcIe3 votesStop viewing "bronze" as an insult. It's a starting point. In season one I started in Bronze. Do you know "hi im gosu"? He used to be in Bronze as recently as season two. I am sincerely trying to help you and sharing the mindset of a person who got over the elo hell stuff and starting working on myself. There will ALWAYS be games that you will not be able to carry. Just accept that. But it's not the big enough part of ranked experience. Therefore, I must inform you, without any sass, forget the concept of "deserving X rank". It's like CLG potential, if you know what I mean. You deserve a rank you currently have. You start deserving another rank the moment you get it. It does not only include your skill level, but also the time you are ready to invest into playing. So if you truly want to climb, forget this concept. This is the most delusional and dumb thing low elo community ever developed. While it is nice to keep thinking that if you want to do nothing and blame the system, but the faster you drop it, the faster you'll get better.
Note: this was all meant as a motivational/inspirational speech. I didn't mean to insult you in any way. If I wasn't helpful, my bad. You have all the right to keep thinking what you think, it's your choice.
GlitchScatter1 votesI really thank you for trying to motivate me, honestly it does help in some ways other than getting raged at but I honestly don't have the mindset of deserving a rank. I believe in teamwork above all else as it takes 5 people to work together to win. I can't stress enough how infuriating and demeaning it is to lose 3 ranks after working so hard to get to a rank. I blame everyone, including myself as I do make mistakes and I accept the loss when it is truly my fault for either not helping enough or being dumb.. but even so, (And I just went through it) I had about 8 games in a row where 1-2 people afk'd that were important to the team and as a support I can't begin to tell you how difficult it is to try and fix that issue. I can win as many games as I lose but the fact of the matter is that I cannot 1v5. I better myself every day, I practice, I look for ways I can better myself and do better in lane or in teamfights. I bust my ass, I learn, I lose more than I win, and maybe you're right, maybe it is just me but when I see my kda and look at my team I wonder what exactly I'm supposed to do. I can watch the pros, I can win my lanes, but it just seems as though its based on luck more than skill. I have devoted countless hours into ranked matches but the better I get the worse I seem to do. :\
mirAcIe1 votesAdd me on, League, I am only a plat 1 player, but I can watch you play and see what I could've done differently. I have a good history of making comebacks in shitty games and I specialize in stopping myself from making stupid decisions :)) My NA username is Mineralke (level 10)
edit: Forgot to mention, can't do it right now, but if you want, I will be available in about 10 hours or so.
GlitchScatter1 votesAdded, with any luck you can yell at me for being bad and I'll finally figure out what I'm doing to screw myself over if it is really me. (probably is)
Stephenizgod1 votesI agree with you somewhat, i think i deserve to be in Silver (currently im unranked cuz i dont want to go back to bronze and from all the stories ive heard thats probably where ill end up lol) because i cant carry a team with my skills. I dont have the leadership capabilities to gather 4 other people under me and lead them, i dont have the skill to make up for if they feed and i win lane, i dont main champions capable of killing their team before they can kill us, etc. BUT there are just some teams that you cant even play with or that have no clue what they are doing. Those of us trying to rise get held down by such games, last season i hit my promos for gold about 5 times i think, by myself. Everytime i hit promos i would be given the most toxic, feeding teammates and those are the ones who didnt just AFK. No matter my skill level, there was nothing i could do about them. Bot lane is 0/20 and its not even 20 min yet, mid is AFK, our jungler despite saying nothing in lobby comes out with "oh btw ive never jungled before" and here i am in Top lane trying to win the game as Garen (he was my safest pick at the time).
But i did crawl my way out of Bronze elo hell once so im confident i could do it again.
mirAcIe3 votesyou are dumb for trying to play your placements right after the season start of course matchmaking will be imbalanced if you have a problem with that you should have waited for all those former plat/dia players to complete their placements and then get into ranked it's obvious that it's gonna happen but hey that's placements for you, they will decide who belongs where and you got what you deserve
bumbertyr2 votesgot what i deserve? your funny. what i deserve is teamates not doing stupid shit. I'm sorry but brand attempting to solo baron just made me give up on this community.
Firancil1 votesIf you gave up on the community then you gave up on yourself seeing as you're ALSO part of the community, along with all your friends also playing league. You know what happened to me last night? I had a troll top in my game when I was jungling, he whined and bitched at me all game for not helping him towerdive a lvl 4 riven under her tower after I already spent a minute in his river bush to countergank if the enemy jungler came up since he was pushing without wards. He was a complete cunt, he even went AFK for a few minutes before coming back to avoid leaverbuster punishments only to spam laugh in fountain.
Did I "deserve" a troll in my game, raging at me every 3 seconds because I chose not to give the enemy riven a double kill under her tower? No, not really, but I don't "deserve" to not have trolls on my team either, if I get a troll then oh well, trolls happen, if not then great, my team can focus on winning the game much more easily. We don't "deserve" good teams, it's up to us to help get our team from point A to point B, if I get a troll then oh well, there's still 3 other people on my team I can help and if we still lose then there's always next game.
The teams we get are either good or bad, it's up to us as individual players to make the best, or worst, of the people we're playing with, trolls should be treated like an outside factor to test how well you can keep yourself calm, and keep your team focusing on winning, consider trolls a leadership exercise, that way even if you lose you still come out with something to use in later games.
IceKingChernobog2 votesthis is why im going to wait a month before i finish my provisional
bumbertyr1 votesIM SO DONE WITH PUTTING PEOPLE ON MY BACK GOOD LORD. how can people be THIS BAD. like what in the actual FUCK riot.
zliplus1 votesI've played 8 games so far, (almost) none of the issues you mentioned. No afkers, no trolls, though some connection issues, definitely some adcs building weirdly, and plenty of hotshots thinking they're better than they are. Started 0-2 on random champs, currently 4-4 with all 4 wins on my main.