I get it that cs is important as hell for every role, especially adc. But come on....I had more important things to do than get every single last hit. I really don't know how you can be a part of almost every kill, do the most damage in the game and get a slap on the wrist because of a couple missed last hits.
VPPtrue1 votesFun fact I had a penta kill stolen this game. It resulted in my 1 and only death. I flashed too hard under tower for the kill.....only for them to die to being ignited at 1 hp. Not worth apparently, it probably was the difference between A+ and S-.
Hotarµ1 votesIt's because of your CS and ward score. Having a high KDA warrants an A score immediately but there's more to League than just getting kills.
The general rule is 100cs every 10 minutes so you should have anywhere from 160-220+ by this point. You should also have a ward score of like 20 ish (maybe?)
I agree this situation is shitty tho :p
VPPtrue1 votesThere is so much more to the picture tho. I didn't need any more CS after like 10 minutes, by that time I was "full build" for a short game. I made plenty of gold getting champs and being a part of every fight. Seems silly to me, I made the most gold in the game but got a a slap on the wrist because i should have killed 20 more minions instead of ending the game.
DuskDaUmbreon1 votesVision score is huge.
Also, 114 is barely half the CS in a lane for that game. That's...pretty low for an ADC.
VPPtrue1 votesIt's reaaaaally low, I totally agree.
But what was I do do? I could just farm the lane and push outside of the deathball. But why? I had plenty of gold obviously. Maybe a better way to see how much profit a player made is to see their total net gold income instead of how many npc's they killed in 10 minutes. Could I really have made as much farm just last hitting minions instead of killing enemy champs at every opportunity? I mean what has more impact?
VPPtrue1 votesAlso what does that say? I should have just spammed wards to make sure I'm hitting the mark. Everything is already warded why should I waste my wards and trinkets?
Syrile1 votesCS is a real mark for game knowledge and skill. Any professional player is required to have outstanding CS ability for this reason. It is, by far, the most consistent form of gold and is easily the most important thing to learn for the basic mechanics that actually allow you to do well.
VPPtrue1 votesBut when you're killing an enemy champion per minute, and taking objectives, making the most gold in the game, why is a few dozen last hits relevant?
Syrile2 votesBut when you're killing an enemy champion per minute, and taking objectives, making the most gold in the game, why is a few dozen last hits relevant?
I explained in great detail in other threads. There are a million reasons but to name a few:
Syrile1 votesBut when you're killing an enemy champion per minute, and taking objectives, making the most gold in the game, why is a few dozen last hits relevant?
Specifically, as I mentioned about players doing poorly... If you check the match history of the ADC, Support, and JG. They consistently have high deaths in their games. Also, the ADC seems to be a JG main. Probably auto-filled. The thing this proves is that you are beating people with high deaths per game, out of their main role. This is nothing against you. This is a statement of why kills are far less a good judge of how good you did yourself than CS.
Another thing to consider is how much you were given those kills by other players. Support and other laners. Not just by damage. Specifically from other players doing well in lane which allows you to push up safely without as much fear of roams and ganks. There are sooo many things to consider in a properly played game of League that kills are very low in priority for showing how good you do. Mata was MVP for a World Championship team/match. Support. Not going to be a lot of kills on him, even if he is the "Bloodthirsty Support."
VPPtrue1 votesThe thing is, while I appreciate the effort you put into this post, it's not really that applicable here. Nothing you said was wrong but almost none of it applies to this game. It was an absolute shut out for sure. Wave management, pushing etc was just not a problem. We got every objective easily and I was a part of that. We ended the game quickly and the constant kill potential I provided was plenty of pressure for them to think twice about leaving their base.
Almost none of my kills were spoon fed to me. Thresh got a few good hooks in the early game which started my snowball but there was a point where (barring diving super deep to try to secure a Penta) I simply could not die.
I'm not saying I played like faker but I am saying that these stats suggest that I played well enough to at least secure the S-.
Syrile1 votesThe thing is, while I appreciate the effort you put into this post, it's not really that applicable here. Nothing you said was wrong but almost none of it applies to this game. It was an absolute shut out for sure. Wave management, pushing etc was just not a problem. We got every objective easily and I was a part of that. We ended the game quickly and the constant kill potential I provided was plenty of pressure for them to think twice about leaving their base.
Almost none of my kills were spoon fed to me. Thresh got a few good hooks in the early game which started my snowball but there was a point where (barring diving super deep to try to secure a Penta) I simply could not die.
I'm not saying I played like faker but I am saying that these stats suggest that I played well enough to at least secure the S-.
At this point, nothing will convince you so I am not going to try. I strongly suggest watching some pro games, listen to top level streamers and pros, and accept their advice, if you will not accept mine.
VPPtrue1 votesI'm gonna come back and kill you all again but the difference is I have TWO IE's so you're gonna die even faster! It's all thanks to the 5 minions I killed bot earlier muwahaHAhaaa!
i know that cs is important, I do. But what would you say to your adc in this game?
"You're doing great but I saw you miss like...like idk like 5 creeps from that wave bot...I know you just literally killed everyone last teamfight but c'mon Kai'sa step it up..You could have 170 last hits instead of 120. In fact let's just report Kai'sa she isn't farming enough."
C'mon I know you've had this happen to you.
ZephyrDrake1 votesfirst, blame the other Kai'sa's that actually are able to CS while having a good KDA. It's other people playing the champion that determine what are the stats you need to get an S score. You are being compared to them not other people in your game or random top/mid/bot/jungle/support players. You are being compared to other players, playing the champion you are playing in the role you are playing. So if you are going to blame anyone here it's every single other player that can do what you do but more
VPPtrue1 votesI mean like I've been saying I stopped going out of my way to cs. Why does it matter that much in this particular situation. In fact I was making much more gold not farming minions because I had such a strong lead and kill potential.