Trinkets and Stealth Champions

Happy Clown Man·6/24/2015, 1:37:35 PM·1 votes·808 views

Alright. Is there anyone else out there who thinks that stealth champions got bent over? I'm having an honest problem with the ridiculous cost effectiveness of these upgraded trinkets. Not just because they're ludicrously strong with their utility, but with their downright middle finger to stealth champions. For example, I main Shaco (Laugh all you want, I'm the jester) and I think he's a wonderful champion if it weren't for the fact you can counter him with 250 gold once you hit level 9. The thing about most stealth champions is the fact that they can't solo most other champions and rely on their juking capabilities to come out on top. If you're playing shaco and it reaches mid-late game and all you can really do is steal dragons and split push. Say their Riven were to show while you were split pushing and you use your Q to escape she'll just pop her oracles and kill you every time. It pretty much reduces Shaco's Q to a glorified blink/ AA buff and twitch's stealth thing into a small speed boost. If you want oracles lens to reveal stealthed champions within the radius, I'm cool with that, that's fine, but the true vision for 250 gold is asinine. You shouldn't be able to counter every single stealth champion for 250 gold. Ever wonder why Akali isn't around much anymore? Take a wild guess. League doesn't need a refreshable pink ward, just like it doesn't need the upgraded red trinket to completely nullify the utility of stealth champions. Stealth is literally all they have and you've offered two easy ways of telling them they don't get to play anymore. Like as stealth champions you have to rely on your wits and use your stealth effectively to survive against high damage threats like Yi, Riven etc. For a free slotted item that costs 250 gold I think it grants too much for too little. And I know what some people say, "Oh, the stealth champions are for early game." Well guess what? Games tend to last longer than 10 bloody minutes. Yes, I get that Shaco should snowball his lanes with his stupidly strong ganks early. Yes I understand that. What you're not accounting for is the fact that those laners can be potatoes that turn a gank that would result in a kill for your team into a waste of time that puts Shaco behind and therefore useless. Sometimes Shaco has to splitpush because he cannot rely on his team to do jack diddly and has to take matters into his own hands. He can't do that anymore because of these trinkets. Fiora? She can chase you down regardless of your stealth because Oracles Lense. Trying to escape heavy CC and get away? Nope, too much true vision. Again the radius of reveal with oracles lense is fine, maybe make the true vision into a ward finder that way it can be used for what it's supposed to be, counter vision, not counter stealth.

3 Comments

3tyson6/24/2015, 1:45:48 PM1 votes

I only agree on stealth being ezz to coumter

even if you dont upgrade trinket buy a pink and you can get a fed akali killed for 100 gold totaly worth

But a twitch dont use stealth to ascape i mean you can but it fails 90% of the time cause your a squeeshy adc and once attacked.it takes 6sec

shaco can also stil use his stealth to get in

so its not like its completely useless unlike akali

Noctius286/24/2015, 1:47:21 PM1 votes

edit your text with paragraphs so i can actually read, then I will give an opinion.

Critmaster Garen6/24/2015, 1:51:09 PM1 votes

imo trinkets arent enough to deal with them. it literally only works with shaco and rengar who have short term stealth.

but teemo shrooms and eve in particular are still problematic to balance because there is no really decent counter to it. the problem with the trinket is, that it has a rather long cooldown with a short window of granting true sight. meaning you cant just activate it randomly to check if there is a stealth champion nearby. youd already have to know that something is around for it to be really useful.