@Rito I really hope you change mid lane soon as well

Diamond2Kappa·2/14/2018, 11:59:36 AM·28 votes·1,520 views

All you do as mid laner for like half a year now is just clear waves and avoid going for 1v1s, its so boring and unrewarding. The last season assassins that arent Kassadin were actually played a lot was Season 3 and maybe a bit in Season 4/5. https://clips.twitch.tv/OddDarlingCookieBigBrother send help

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Ahristocats2/14/2018, 12:26:56 PM11 votes

mages need to have a weak lvl1-lvl5 it's unfair that a class out-teamfighting assassins is able to bully them before assassins hit lvl 6

you know why mages were not played over assassins in season 3? because assassins had bottle that didn't cost 500 gold, had tear being broken which was the only mana item they could buy to sustain a lane, and don't tell me zed is manaless, because pantheon talon and kha'zix have mana (though kha was forced into the jungle)

after riot removed bottle, nerfed tear, and gave mages item 3191 there was no way assassins could lane against mages anymore

Mages have by far higher win rates than assassins, but it means nothing according to the boards because "you need magic damage" NO SHIT doesn't that tell you that it doesn't change anything and if you win more you're stronger?

so in ultra high elo, we're stuck with a mage meta ever since assassins have a weak laning phase While in low elo, playing an assassin is fine because mages there don't know how to abuse your lane

they don't know that zed's W has 22 sec cd, and during this time it's free poke and free lane bully against zed

Sohleks2/14/2018, 2:10:03 PM8 votes

Underrated thread.

I learned a long time ago winning league of legends is about being as lame as possible and that Riot nerfs aggressive stuffs 5 times faster than other stuff. It's pretty easy to predict what champions will be allowed to be good on design alone based on archtype, utility and tools given. The meta has overall been the same boring stale cracker for years. I've heard one say that this is just the natural evolution of league of legends as if it's just inevitable. While true that's just a really damn bad thing to just accept. What Riot should be doing is proving that wrong because that is just a bad ending to league of legends. But they won't do that as it may take significant redesign between classes and seem to be typically content with half balancing around win rates (and using winrates as a balance gauge is just terrible, particularly when certain conditions of the game are just settled after some years). The other half of balancing is just focused on cycling the LCS roster. But it's always the same stuff in the lcs.

Darkin Hybrid2/14/2018, 1:23:48 PM7 votes

For me...

Fun Matchups: Anivia AurelionSol Lissandra Orianna Xerath Vladimir Ziggs Velkoz Taliyah

Annoying Matchups: Zed Ryze Katarina Leblanc Veigar Syndra Kassadin

Reason as to why I dispise Zed as a champion is that he has so much damage (I know he's suppose to since he's an assassin) that he doesn't need to even land his abilities because item 3147 alone with his ult + passive damage will kill you. Sure you can use item 2419 item 3157 but his ult cooldown is being lowered on pbe so that's gonna be fun.

GayFluffyUnicorn2/14/2018, 1:26:26 PM6 votes

You are not a midlaner. You are mid jungler. So shut up and team play (jerk off your adc). Like seriously it's just god fuckin dammit. God help us if you wanna have fun in the game. No matter top or mid i get jungle or supporter non stop visiting my lane. If i play the lane i lose the game. If i abandon my lane and just roam botlane i win the game. Just fuck this game man. I don't even care what champ or class i have to play because it doesn't matter in either lane. Toplane if you wanna play a bruiser you better tank up or go for the camille oneshot and just roam non stop if you get stonewalled because you can't beat a tank in lane unless he is sion and even then with comet it gets pretty fuckin stupid. Midlane you just autolose the first six levels as a melee assassin not named katarina. Actually playing the lane just punishes you. Both solo lanes come down to afk waveclear and either roam or hope you out CS your opponent for the inevitable aram deathball. There are barely any skirmishes or 2v2 s anymore. God forbid you try to splitpush. Every fuckin game i dare to push further than my tier 2 turret i get the hashinshin treatment. It's like people completely lose their mind when they see someone splitpush and throw EVERYTHING into stopping you from splitting as if you are some known child rapist on the run. All you see midlane is TF, xerath, azir, tali (soloQ atleast) sometimes a ryze and malz. Everything that can turn their brain off to clear waves and has tools to roam around. Where are the fun days of zed vs leblanc, zed/fizz, leblanc/fizz. Some outplays, the 1v1. Hell even ahri was entertaining.

AmazoX2/14/2018, 12:08:31 PM5 votes

This is so not true.

oortoomeebreesuu2/14/2018, 5:47:08 PM4 votes

What he's complaining about stem from the exact same problems that everybody is having. Since the laning phase is so quick, if you miss out on farm by roaming or actually trading hp and mana, then you're always at a deficit. Toning down tower instant death syndrome and the speed at which carries reach their crit builds doesn't seem to me like a mysterious problem. Mid laners would get to take risky trades and recall, or roam without losing the game cuz their tower lost half it's health.

Less is more, people. Less damage means more trades and more time spent on each individual wave. Less gold generated means more farm needed, yes, but missing that specific 12-20 cs out of your own pocket could be worth the play you made, which at current times, literally never once at all ever.

Salson2/14/2018, 3:57:32 PM3 votes

Jungle has been overpowered since S7. It basically shut's down aggression in Solo lanes.

The only reason Top is more fucked is the longer lane, and with it more gank vulnerability.

Rito doesn't give two shits because nothing really changed in LCS.

ÈvilMorty2/14/2018, 6:23:18 PM2 votes

When im playing against an assassin as a mage, the only thing I CAN do is push the wave. If i get in there range after 6 then i get one shot with item 3147, pre 6 if i get in there range then i get a mouth full of damage cuz gap closer, point click abilities and being able to dodge my cc with said gap closers. Sure i can rush item 3157 but heres the thing, MAGES GET PUNISHED FOR IT. If a mage rushes item 3157 first then they have no mana or hp or both and have to back every 2-4min. Mages NEED to rush item 3027 oritem 3165 (the most common) first where as assassins can rush item 3147 with 0 penalty.

TL:DR All a mage can do when facing an assassin is push the wave because fighting them without 1-2 items is not worth it at all

Barley2/14/2018, 12:50:01 PM2 votes

Fix top first. We’ve been complaining since runes reforged. After they fix our cruddy lane, they can move onto your cruddy lane. #TOPFIRST

Hyquiem2/14/2018, 2:16:00 PM2 votes

Like no joke, when some one pulls out a kassadin, the mid lane. Feels hopeless, no mater how much he goes 0/# he then gets 2 items and jerks off in everyone’s faces. Plus we need action it’s all sit and wait this wave then we’ll get him, oh he’s undetower let’s roam, where as roaming top is dangerous since not only stop watch, but things like nasus can 1v4, as well all know no one cares

PhantomGG2/14/2018, 3:50:38 PM2 votes

For this to actually happen stop watch needs to be removed, but hey, fun times

PhantomPrankster2/14/2018, 3:53:02 PM2 votes

because playing aggressive gives the enemy jungler a one way ticket to your lane for an easy level 2 gank